2 Pack, Cellulose or Pro?

[Adrian C]

Hey chaps,

I’m in a bit of a dilemma as to what to do. I have a Lotus Exige which needs both the rear and front clams re-sprayed due to a previous knock. The 3 options I have are; 1, body shop to spray the clams. 2. Use 2 pack paint 3. Use cellulose / water based paint.

My health is paramount. I do not want to risk damaging my health with any dangerous vapour. I already have an ABAC 3hp 200L air comp, Devilbiss GTI gun and a large garage. If I were to use 2 pack paint and an air fed mask how would I provide the air compressor with fresh air as that is also in the garage? Regarding option 3, paints4u offered me;

Acid #8 1K Etch Primer
AW Cellulose Ind. Primer Grey
BSB Industrial Colour
C10 1K Industrial Lacquer
How would you rate these products?

If I did go with the cellulose I would prefer to pay a premium for the best products. What would you consider?

Hi Again,

Yes the etch is designed for fibreglass and aluminium. I think you are
getting 2K and 2 pack mixed up. 2K is a basecoat paint (solvent or water
based) and is not toxic like 2pack. However the clear coat is usually 2
pack and therefore this is toxic and unsuitable for applying without an air
fed face mask. We should be able to find you a reasonable match to respray
your wheel(s).

Our waterbased paint is very easy to use and offers very similar performance
to the solvent based 2K paints. There are many different waterbased paints,
some good some quite poor.

HTH
Louise

How much roughly would it cost to for the 2 clams to be resprayed bearing in mind all the prep work would have been carried out by me and no masking is required?

Thanks,
Adrian

 

[pedrobedro]

A lot of paint shops will not take work on the basis you are suggesting unless you accept that it may not be perfect when it is finished. The only way to find out is to go to them and ask what it would cost, no-one can speculate for you. You can get 1k lacquer if you want to paint it yourself although you may be advised against it by experts with air fed equipment who do not like it as it may not be as clear or long lasting as 2k lacquer with isocyanates.
Edit to add I've used single stage lacquer and have no problem with the clarity and 2 years later it still looked fine but I sold my motorbike with the paint on it so it may fade later.

 

[Adrian C]

Yea, that's what I would have thought. I would prefer to do it myself; I have most of the equipment from previous spraying. Now the question is what clear coat will suit my needs best? I don't mind spending £50 plus on a non 2 pack top clear coat. Don't most of the car manufactures use water based paint now due to environmental restrictions? Or is some of this still 2 pack?

I have heard some good feedback regarding this clear: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290485346635&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks for your response pedro.

 

[the snooper]

all laquer is solvent based only base coats are water based

 

[Adrian C]

I see. thanks for that. Can anyone recommend a decent clear?

 

[the snooper]

if you have an airfed mask 2k is the way to go

 

[Adrian C]

Yea, I would prefer to use 2pack. However, the only problem I have is that my air compressor is fixed in my garage. If there is a way I can channel fresh air into the compressor from outside I will snap up an air fad mask right away.

 

[jaykay]

it's not just a compressor and mask.you need filters for the air you are going to breath in also.

 

[M4RKE]

What part of Kent are you in ? as I use a painter in ashford that is happy to do the paint after you have done the prep

 

[Adrian C]

Thanks for the responses. I've decided I'm going to go ahead and do the spraying myself. Always wanted to give it a go, plus I have most of the equipment. Question is what paint types / makes to go for? I'm not going to use 2 pack / an air fed mask. Just a full face 3m.

After looking around I was going to go with Upol as I know they're a pretty big brand.

U-pol S2003 plastic primer adhesion promoter
U-pol P88 high build primer
U-pol Acrylic 1k high gloss lacquer

Is PPG Deltron D800 a 2 pack? I've heard pretty good feedback from this.