Cebora 883, old timer info needed !

[Joeyg]

Hey guys, hope all is well an everyone who reads this had a good Christmas. So today could not if gone any worse, as well as knocking over a tin of paint into my tool chest i discovered an issue with a newly purchased used welder. Purchased the cebora 883 pocket mig to do some welding on my land rover, had a go with it before purchasing and seemed lovely. I was going to have a quick buzz today so i cracked on the new disposable gas bottle opened the gas then all of a sudden i heard a POP and the torch casing had slightly seperated and gas was leaking. I took the torch apart to inspect and the spring loaded mechanism which which pushes a brass valve with two rubber seals kept popping out the gun. I think the retaining screw had potentially snapped ?

Anywho is it easier for me to buy a new torch than try source this part, and are torches somewhat easily interchangeable ? Any information would be much appreciated. Ive only been using arc til now so my mig knowledge is nil ! Will be gutted if its ********. Thanks

 

[eddie49]

Hello, and welcome to the Forum !
Other members may know this specific machine and could advise you about repair of the valve or replacement of the original torch. In general both disposable gas canisters and in-torch valves are not recommended - especially if you have a whole Land Rover to repair. Better alternatives include conversion to a Eurotorch, fitting a gas solenoid, and upgrade to a rent-free or deposit hobby or trade real gas cylinder, or pub-CO2.

 

[Joeyg]

Hi eddie, thanks so much for the warm welcome and swift response. Yeah i have seen a lot of people mentioning eurotorch conversions online. So you're telling me my machine is savable ? Everything else works fine on it. Apologies again on my lack of knowledge I'm starting school soon for mig.

 

[Pete.]

I've got one of those in my workshop which I bought for my grandson. The block is a simple device it should be easily fixable. Replacement torch heads are not that much but there are 1-wire and 2-wire versions. Yours is a 1-wire.

 

[eddie49]

Yes, it's definitely savable. The early small Ceboras are great little machines. From this thread:
https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/new-torch-cebora-pocket-turbo-130.71612/
it looks like @HughF is the Forum's resident expert on them.

 

[Pete.]

Here's my thread. Sadly (for you) I never had to strip the gas valve.

https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/cebora-pocket-mig-883-do-over.80816/

 

[Joeyg]

Thank you so much for the response guys, phew thats a relief. Yes ive seen the replacement gas nozzle valves. Although they say they are for a 130 pocket mig im sure it should fit. It looks identical, there are even some cheaper ones. And thanks for the link i will have a read

 

[Joeyg]

https://www.wecs-ltd.co.uk/product/cebora-pocket-turbo-130-alternatve-mig-torch-complete/ Will this be okay ? Undortunatley the original gas valve is non repairable

 

[eddie49]

If the gas pressure is too high it will push the in-torch gas valve apart. Do you have a regulator on your new disposable canister? Maybe that is all that is wrong ? Anyway, no worries, the pressure will soon drop because it will be empty in a few minutes !

No, seriously, you do need to solve the whole gas supply issue, disposables are next to useless. That will mean deciding on some form of real cylinder, plus a regulator. Plenty of advice in threads about gas on this Forum. Otherwise, you may want to consider gasless flux-core wire ... not ideal, some like it.

I think the replacement torch you linked to will do the job, but they can be had for about half that cost:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MB14AK-E...ete-Welding-Gun-Parts-2-5M-3M-4M/143343373527

[ Even if your machine originally has only one wire, I think that a torch with two trigger wires is better. The switch will be a real microswitch, rather than just a brass strip. It is also more versatile, if you want to swap torch polarity to use gasless wire, or make other wire feed upgrades.]

However, there are perhaps other options to look into before spending any money on a welder that is still a bit of an unknown quantity to you.
For example, repair of the gas valve - some hints here:
https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/cebora-dilema.50449/
or go gasless - no need for the valve, or bite the bullet and swap to a Eurotorch.

 

[Joeyg]

Hi Eddie thanks for the reply, yeah once I've installed the new torch and got it working perfectly i am going to invest in a decent cylinder asap. Im starting to think the regulator dial may be faulty on the disposable cylinder. Any good brands sizes you can recommend thanks bud