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Hi, welcome to the forum.
What gun is it?
Any suitably sized compressor will work but there are huge differences in the air requirements for any gun depending on the size of the air cap.
Check the air requirements for the air cap you intend to use and my advice would be to get as big a compressor as you can afford (and run from your electricity supply)
Do you intend to use an air fed mask?
They can use far more air than the spray gun.
What gun is it?
Any suitably sized compressor will work but there are huge differences in the air requirements for any gun depending on the size of the air cap.
Check the air requirements for the air cap you intend to use and my advice would be to get as big a compressor as you can afford (and run from your electricity supply)
Do you intend to use an air fed mask?
They can use far more air than the spray gun.
Thanks Dcal,
Here is the link i saw - https://www.airsupplies.co.uk/apollo-pro-spray-1500-hvlp-spray-system
The gun is a 'ANB300 Proline "non-bleed" spray gun'
It looks like a one trick pony for just HVLP use.
I don't have a compressor or gun at the moment but would like to get a single phase compressor for general duties and that is also capable of spraying normal and HVLP.
I need to balance the capacity of compressor and receiver so it can do most things but not be too physically large.
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That compressor will only run that spray gun (or similar)
It will probably be low pressure so won't be much use for anything else.
I haven't used that type of setup so can't comment if it's any good or not.
A spray gun and separate compressor will be more expensive but will be better and the compressor would be a lot more useful for other stuff.
If it's only for spraying an airless setup would also be worth looking at but I dont know anything much about them either.
What stuff and what type of paint do you want to spray?
It will probably be low pressure so won't be much use for anything else.
I haven't used that type of setup so can't comment if it's any good or not.
A spray gun and separate compressor will be more expensive but will be better and the compressor would be a lot more useful for other stuff.
If it's only for spraying an airless setup would also be worth looking at but I dont know anything much about them either.
What stuff and what type of paint do you want to spray?
Thanks, I would like to try spraying my old Mini.
I like the look of this one https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/AC310H although i think it is aimed at air tools.
Is a 6 litre tank too small for spraying and HVLP jobs?
This SIP Hurricane looks more like it but the FAD is only 5.4 https://www.sipuk.co.uk/sip-06245-airmate-hurricane-v300-100-compressor.html
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If you want to spray a car you will need something bigger.
3 hp at least and a 100l tanks size would be OK but you might get away with a 50l tank
You won't get a huge spray gun (or air cap) to work with that but for starting out you don't need (or want) that.
Have you read any of the compressor posts on here?
Also the paint “how to” at the top of the page is worth reading (even if it’s a little out of date)
Have a read of the thread below, there are lots of others.
The Wolf Dakota compressors are good value and well thought of by members on here but there are lots of options at that sort of money.
A decent spray gun can be had for very little money but the hoses, regulators. filters, PPE etc. all add up.
A direct drive compressor will be a bit cheaper but will make a lot more racket and probably won't last as long.
3 hp at least and a 100l tanks size would be OK but you might get away with a 50l tank
You won't get a huge spray gun (or air cap) to work with that but for starting out you don't need (or want) that.
Have you read any of the compressor posts on here?
Also the paint “how to” at the top of the page is worth reading (even if it’s a little out of date)
Have a read of the thread below, there are lots of others.
The Wolf Dakota compressors are good value and well thought of by members on here but there are lots of options at that sort of money.
A decent spray gun can be had for very little money but the hoses, regulators. filters, PPE etc. all add up.
A direct drive compressor will be a bit cheaper but will make a lot more racket and probably won't last as long.
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Thanks Dcal, I'll have a read up.
Are any direct drive compressors serviceable for bearing and the like?
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I'm sure there are but most are throw away.
You have a better chance of getting parts for a belt drive, as motors and pumps are pretty much interchangeable across the range.
It might mean getting a new pump or a new motor but you will be able to get them and be able to make them fit your compressor.
The direct drives are a bit more bespoke
You have a better chance of getting parts for a belt drive, as motors and pumps are pretty much interchangeable across the range.
It might mean getting a new pump or a new motor but you will be able to get them and be able to make them fit your compressor.
The direct drives are a bit more bespoke
It's worth googling about spray guns. I did recently (cos I know naff-all about them) - and you can get guns that run smaller paint nozzles so require less air cfm to operate.
That means it'd take (a bit) longer to paint a given area (but for me the lower volume might actually help a newbie avoid runs etc?).... but of course it means you don't need as huge an air compressor setup.
(I've got a 50-yr-old Ingersoll-Rand 2hp, 1ph, I think 150-Litre Reciever compressor, something like 9cfm I think... & I don't think that would cope with a big spray gun, but I've not tried)
That means it'd take (a bit) longer to paint a given area (but for me the lower volume might actually help a newbie avoid runs etc?).... but of course it means you don't need as huge an air compressor setup.
(I've got a 50-yr-old Ingersoll-Rand 2hp, 1ph, I think 150-Litre Reciever compressor, something like 9cfm I think... & I don't think that would cope with a big spray gun, but I've not tried)
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It wouldn’t even look at it on much more than a couple of panels, the OP is looking towards an HVLP, high volume, low pressure. A ballpark would be 9-15 FAD depending on gun/air cap.
Your 9 cfm is likely piston displacement, and FAD roundabout 2/3 of that.
Thats before air to breathe is even taken into consideration.
I guessed as much, but it's good to get some confirmation from someone who knows a lot more about it
.Tbh, if I ever got around to trying to spray paint - it'd be on my old van, and I'd be happy to take time, and I'd be using the easiest, most foolproof "bung it in and squirt it on" tractor paint or similar. E.g. nothing exotic and taxing for my meagre equipment and minimal clue about spraying
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A hood type air fed mask will use everything a 3hp compressor can supply.
If he needs to run a mask and a spray gun he will be looking at a 5hp compressor at least, or two 3hp, which is being discussed in another thread at the moment.
To get started a single 3hp compressor, a decent respirator, value spray gun and epoxy primer will get him started and should also be fine if using some of the 1 pack paints which are getting good now (in single pack at least.)
Nobody starting out will want a big hungry air cap and nozzle, unless they like runs.
If he needs to run a mask and a spray gun he will be looking at a 5hp compressor at least, or two 3hp, which is being discussed in another thread at the moment.
To get started a single 3hp compressor, a decent respirator, value spray gun and epoxy primer will get him started and should also be fine if using some of the 1 pack paints which are getting good now (in single pack at least.)
Nobody starting out will want a big hungry air cap and nozzle, unless they like runs.
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For example the devilbiss gti pro with an H1 aircap has a 15.9 cfm requirement, the air fed mask I have needs approx 10.3 cfm so just over 26 cfm. I have a 30 cfm compressor that just about keeps up with that combination but I don’t use the H1 air cap unless I need to. The trans tech air caps don’t need as much air 12.4 cfm and below which works out easier on the compressor
