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Lawnmowerboy
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Fincords are excellent and meant to be multi positional if your using 6013s I take it. It is lacking fusion in a lot of places you can see. Would help a lot of you cleaned the material with more than a wire brush!!
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I was ment for 6013s I dont like them I think its just my preference
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That would be classed as a vertical weld. It doesnt matter how high above you it is, its always classed as vertical. If you butt two pieces of plate together and weld them without moving them, when you weld the top you have flat position, then whe you weld the underneath without turning it over, the underneath is overhead.
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Cheers for the classification on that mate I'll getting there in the end ahahahaha
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as a sort of.related topic, when does flat position become vertical? Is it after the part being.welded reaches the point where it is.more Than 45 degrees from.flat?
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Not sure about 45 degrees being the cut off point i think between horizontal/flat and vertical, and between vertical and overhead. Ive done plate tests before to ASME procedures which if I remember right stated that the plate could be tilted back so it wasnt quite vertical but by no more than 5 degrees? Not sure about BSEN or other standars though, I may have even got wires crossed somewhere altogether lol
Tests I took were usually carried out with plates stitch weld into a jig bang on vertical or overhead though so they couldnt be moved from bang on vertical or overhead and level (to stop people cheating by laying them flat on a bench when nobody's looking i guess)
David, If you are practicing your plate butts and finding it going well, one position to try, is to set up a butt vertical, then tilt the top of the plates towards you until you get to 45degrees, then weld that vertical up. Needs really realy short arc and a fair bit of practice, but once you can crack that one, any other plate position will be a doddle in comparison. Pipe on the other hand is a completely different beast altogether lol
Aswell as the ESAB 6013s, another rod to have a go with perhaps, especially if you are practising to start going for jobs which will require you to test out, is either a Filarc 56S, or Elga P47. Both are 7016 Low hydrogen rods (AC/DC current, but DC is much smoother), or ESAB OK 48.00 which is a 7018 (same thing with a touch more iron powder in the flux, and welds slightly differently, but DC only)
These rods are a bit more of a challenge to use than 6013, needing to keep a very very short arc, and requiring a bit more practice, but for starters, even if you dont keep them bone dry in a rod oven (which if just for practicing shouldnt really matter anyway) the definition between the molten pool and the slag trail behind, well you will be amazed at how clear it is compared to a 6013. Personally I would say these would be better to practice with, but just dont use them on a job for a customer without going through all of the procedures about storage and keeping them dry.
If you can get the hang of welding with these types of rod, then 6013s will be no problem.
You said in an earlier post you didnt like Fincord M's. Personally I like them, give such a smooth buttery arc, suits me well lol. Have you tried Vodex from Murex?? They are one of the best 6013s you will find. Personally like them too, some dont though lol
Tests I took were usually carried out with plates stitch weld into a jig bang on vertical or overhead though so they couldnt be moved from bang on vertical or overhead and level (to stop people cheating by laying them flat on a bench when nobody's looking i guess)
David, If you are practicing your plate butts and finding it going well, one position to try, is to set up a butt vertical, then tilt the top of the plates towards you until you get to 45degrees, then weld that vertical up. Needs really realy short arc and a fair bit of practice, but once you can crack that one, any other plate position will be a doddle in comparison. Pipe on the other hand is a completely different beast altogether lol
Aswell as the ESAB 6013s, another rod to have a go with perhaps, especially if you are practising to start going for jobs which will require you to test out, is either a Filarc 56S, or Elga P47. Both are 7016 Low hydrogen rods (AC/DC current, but DC is much smoother), or ESAB OK 48.00 which is a 7018 (same thing with a touch more iron powder in the flux, and welds slightly differently, but DC only)
These rods are a bit more of a challenge to use than 6013, needing to keep a very very short arc, and requiring a bit more practice, but for starters, even if you dont keep them bone dry in a rod oven (which if just for practicing shouldnt really matter anyway) the definition between the molten pool and the slag trail behind, well you will be amazed at how clear it is compared to a 6013. Personally I would say these would be better to practice with, but just dont use them on a job for a customer without going through all of the procedures about storage and keeping them dry.
If you can get the hang of welding with these types of rod, then 6013s will be no problem.
You said in an earlier post you didnt like Fincord M's. Personally I like them, give such a smooth buttery arc, suits me well lol. Have you tried Vodex from Murex?? They are one of the best 6013s you will find. Personally like them too, some dont though lol
