I have been touching up the Mrs`s polo,her car that is, its a Windsor blue, code LN5Y,I have filled in a few chips and a bump in the front wing also a couple of chips and scratches on the bonnet,now the base and clear has come out OK on the front of the wing but the bonnet wasn't a success with the blown in bits being too light in colour as opposed to the original,so today I went back to the paint supplier and got myself another 250ml,flatted down the bonnet,didn't prime it, and off the car and on a bench gave it two full coats of the base and the colour has again come out a lot brighter than what it should be. I have sprayed it in the flat position as if it was on the car. any pearls of wisdom from you old hands on what I'm obviously doing wrong ?.
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if you intend to do it again ask the supplier to tint it a little darker then do a small test patch and if nescesary get them to tint it again until its correct.
you could also ask them how many shades they have for that colour there may be another 2
you could also ask them how many shades they have for that colour there may be another 2
I was with the guy when he was mixing it today, and there is only one shade of that colour, I have to do it again it wont do as it is now, might get it from another supplier this time though. Whats bugging me is its come out ok on the lower part of the wing I did with the first batch,so I must be doing something wrong.
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If I remember right. With metalics, if sprayed dry then the colur tends to be light but if sprayed wet then the colur will be darker due to the flakes sinking through the paint. Try repainting it with a wetter finish. My instructor may year ago used to paint a panel from the same gun and by changing the pressure, speed and distance from the panel you got from light green to black. Never took up the trade so could be wrong.
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Higher pressure will give a lighter finish but the paint supplier could tint the paint to come out darker or deeper blue. What paint are you using, cellulose or acrylic or something else? Metallics are a problem to match. I'm taking some back tomorrow for the third attempt, it just wants lightening a bit more for a perfect match to my bike tank in a silver metallic cellulose with quite heavy flakes.
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I dont get what you mean.do you mean the whole of the bonnet is lighter?
ie/did you paint the panels separately or did you 'blow' it in across the bonnet(ie 50-50thinners/paint going to 75-25?)
also what compressor did you use because drops in pressure will result in the metallic flakes drying out and falling flat so then your left with more silver than colour.
This then gives the illusion of a lighter coat if you get what i mean?
a good painter can see this has it happens and adjust the pressure/gun distance to match.
if you have had good results from the same batch of paint then the trouble must be elsewhere than the actual paint if you get me lol
ps/ did the paint that looks lighter come from the same gun pot as the other?
ie/did you paint the panels separately or did you 'blow' it in across the bonnet(ie 50-50thinners/paint going to 75-25?)
also what compressor did you use because drops in pressure will result in the metallic flakes drying out and falling flat so then your left with more silver than colour.
This then gives the illusion of a lighter coat if you get what i mean?
a good painter can see this has it happens and adjust the pressure/gun distance to match.
if you have had good results from the same batch of paint then the trouble must be elsewhere than the actual paint if you get me lol
ps/ did the paint that looks lighter come from the same gun pot as the other?
Yes the whole bonnet is lighter, and yes it came from the same gun,started off by just trying to touch up the bits affected on the car, then decided to do the whole bonnet, still the same. one thing I definitely know is that its not a compressor or air supply to the gun problem. I didn't carry on trying to blow in the areas of repair on the bonnet as the colour was way off,thats when I stripped it all down and tried again a new the new batch of paint. Like you say,the trouble is elsewhere, meaning my technique and not the paint.
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ln5y is a pearl color so there will be a different in color from the top to the sides.The sides will look darker and the top will look lighter due to the reflection in the pearl.To help things out ,blend your wings ,but there will still be a slight difference due to it being pearl.
ln5y is a pearl color so there will be a different in color from the top to the sides.The sides will look darker and the top will look lighter due to the reflection in the pearl.To help things out ,blend your wings ,but there will still be a slight difference due to it being pearl.
Is there a different way of applying a pearl to a metallic, how long can you leave a basecoat before putting on the lacquer ?, getting some basecoat from a different place tomorrow will see how I get along, thanks to everyone for the helpful suggestions.
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pearl is much easier to apply because your pearl is a one stage pearl.Apply it like you would metallic .The best thing for you is that you will get no stripeing because its a pearl.Keep it wet and no need to put a drop coat on.Apply your clear coat once your base is dry .36psi or 2half bar at you regulator at you gun.
Ive had this problem and it was down to having mixed it slightly differently with the thinners. I only paint bikes so I mix all the paint I need at once and store in glass jars. When the gun needs topping up shake well and away I go. Now I know this wont help you with you much larger surface but are you mixing it the same each time?
