Charred fingers
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not enough testing done on itView attachment 83323 View attachment 83324 Can't believe people can get away such shoddy design, this is off a 65 plate Deici loading shovel.
yep perhaps they could inform the company to its failingscertainly been tested now
i think thats your first problem there....View attachment 83323 View attachment 83324 Can't believe people can get away such shoddy design, this is off a 65 plate Deici loading shovel.
To be fair there does need some consideration as to why it's broken.
If it's genuinely just broken then fair enough, it's inadequate.
But if it's been caught, dragged through muck etc which has placed excess stress on it then that part being a weak link is no bad thing.
I can well remember a similarly weak fixing for a zetor mudguard front bracket, which I strengthened exactly as has been done here.
The problem was, it got dragged through muck again and broke somewhere else which was a worse repair - ended up better to replace the arm than repair - so it is worth bearing in mind that sometimes it can be better to go against the automatic tendency of making stronger, there are places when this is and isn't appropriate.
Quite often you don't know the circumstances behind a failure. It's surprising how many seeming straightforward people will cover themselves with machine breakages, and there are also plenty of times where a person genuinely didn't notice catching something. Particularly cowmen on telehandlers.
are they nuts or double ended studs?The guy that drives this is pretty careful. Still think its bad design because it isn't bolted down flat but sits on top of the four nuts that hold the top plate of the kingpin bush (see photo) which will allow it to flex
Tare they nuts or double ended studs?
if it was mine id remove the king pin bush and lathe the top of it off square ( i assume its not a flat casting hence the short cut with the nuts ) and then id bolt my mudguard bracket down tight on top of it when assembling it and use 10.9 bolts to hold it all there.
tbh I don't know if they are double ended studs or not all I know is both the rear brackets snapped on the same place. The thing is I shouldn't have to be repairing or modifying themare they nuts or double ended studs?
if it was mine id remove the king pin bush and lathe the top of it off square ( i assume its not a flat casting hence the short cut with the nuts ) and then id bolt my mudguard bracket down tight on top of it when assembling it and use 10.9 bolts to hold it all there.
tbh I don't know if they are double ended studs or not all I know is both the rear brackets snapped on the same place. The thing is I shouldn't have to be repairing or modifying them
3mm..The part has failed due to vibration. If you weld in some 3mm gusset plates it should be problem free in future.
3mm..
you have some faith in steel chris...
imo 3mm steel gusset plates isnt going to be any use in circumstances like this im afraid, they would crack in no time in the conditions the bracket is under unless you put about twenty of them in.If 3mm gusset plates are fitted there will be no future problems. These would increase the strength of the part maybe 200% in the area that has failed.
Got to say I repair Forestry/Agricultural machines for a living and cannot remember ever using 3mm plate. Even the toolboxes are much thicker. The abuse these machines get are fairly bad. The bracket itself is fairly beefy in itself so I doubt 3mm will have much effect