new shed build tips

[chunkolini]

I am having my back yard levelled by builders, so a nice shiny new concrete base.
I had planned a block shed but I want to get my bikes inside asap so lets forget asking them to do that, and I'm not building one myself
I'm looking at various sized wooden sheds. Hopefully 12x8ft. Once the yard is levelled and the gate opened up I'll bring the bike home and play about with layouts for doors etc.~
I've seen and helped assemble metal sheds that are bloody awful structures. er there any decent options for them?
Im going to buy a modular shed so a bit of flexibility re layout and can add an extra door myself if needed.
Budget? seems up to around £1.5k maybe a bit less, That should buy a 12mm + thick tongue and groove thing
Access will be through an 8ft wall. into the yard I'll be building a gate that will keep ne'er do wells out; well up to a point.

So how to prepare the base? I'll be keeping a motorbike in there.
Can I just build it on the existing concrete? bolt it down? I have no idea.
there is loads of conflicting advice online.
Builders look like something out of Twintown, but have done a good job on the retaining wall. A mate who is a civil engineer has give that the thumbs up.
here they are on the remains of the old 'shed' you could not call it a structure

 

[gaz1]

after the concrete to set its 2 days for them to build a concrete block wall

and a couple of days waiting for it to set enough to put woods on to it

dont buy a shed there seriously crap and that one ive just built up at 15ft x 10ft pure crap

1" batterns with pinelap boards on them for the money you pay for them they are seriously poor value never mind the dipped wood

 

[chunkolini]

after the concrete to set its 2 days for them to build a concrete block wall

and a couple of days waiting for it to set enough to put woods on to it

dont buy a shed there seriously crap and that one ive just built up at 15ft x 10ft pure crap

1" batterns with pinelap boards on them for the money you pay for them they are seriously poor value never mind the dipped wood

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That's very clear.
The Boyz do have the skills.
It would be more bettererer.
I think maybe some more direct management and set a time limit.

 

[addjunkie]

Id go block too, for a security perspective with a box profile insulated roof.

 

[gaz1]

price of blocks sand and cement then wood roof that can be insulated out with 4" insulation boards or normal insulation

it will be alot cheaper than a wood shed and better built just plan where your door is going

both sheds are 10ft -11ft x 8ft-9ft wide offside like first pic means you can store to the left of the door with the middle door you can store left and right but the middle door takes up and then you only have a walkway down the middle both have steel doors on them

i wasnt messing with that front shed build thats why it has a center door

 

[gaz1]

So how to prepare the base? I'll be keeping a motorbike in there.
Can I just build it on the existing concrete? bolt it down? I have no idea.
there is loads of conflicting advice online.
Builders look like something out of Twintown, but have done a good job on the retaining wall. A mate who is a civil engineer has give that the thumbs up.
here they are on the remains of the old 'shed' you could not call it a structure

the base is it strong enough only way to tell is to drill it at set points along its outer edge 2-3" from the edge so a block can cover the drill hole you made to inspect the thickness

either end and one in the middle

2" thick not worth it its a rip up or layer another layer on top of it

4" thick yes you can build on it with a wood shed but you still will need the plastic lifters under the shed

4" thick brick wall yes it can be built on but the edges arnt thick enough pref 6" at edges or 8" thick for the concrete walls

 

[Bullet2012]

not sure if the builder guys look any better with shirts on !

 

[Turbo]

Look at prices for wooden sheds before you decide - they have shot up in price and 1.5k will not get a decent shed.

A block shed would be my choice and probably cheaper, depending on labour costs.

 

[Onoff]

You want some form of damp course or it'll just be a damp shed. Just for bikes?

If reusing the slab you could build dwarf walls and apply a liquid DPM. Atop that you could go Celotex and interlocking t&g V5 boards. Or just a couple of inches of insulation and a 4" slab. Even pallets would do as a cheap floor.

I took a free shed and raised it up on dwarf walls atop a slab. I then tanked with liquid DPM, laid down building paper and the original shed floor on that.

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Tbh wish I'd broken up & sold the shed at the gate as firewood! Not big enough, given the space I have I should have made it bigger. Next shed will be pallet wall construction.

 

[addjunkie]

You want some form of damp course or it'll just be a damp shed. Just for bikes?

If reusing the slab you could build dwarf walls and apply a liquid DPM. Atop that you could go Celotex and interlocking t&g V5 boards. Or just a couple of inches of insulation and a 4" slab. Even pallets would do as a cheap floor.

I took a free shed and raised it up on dwarf walls atop a slab. I then tanked with liquid DPM, laid down building paper and the original shed floor on that.

https://flic.kr/p/Symqeb

https://flic.kr/p/SN4YNc

https://flic.kr/p/SJsMNf

Tbh wish I'd broken up & sold the shed at the gate as firewood! Not big enough, given the space I have I should have made it bigger. Next shed will be pallet wall construction.

In your case as you have the space…..clear it, build a 40x20 proper shed…..think how much extra junk you could store!

 

[addjunkie]

I am having my back yard levelled by builders, so a nice shiny new concrete base.
I had planned a block shed but I want to get my bikes inside asap so lets forget asking them to do that, and I'm not building one myself
I'm looking at various sized wooden sheds. Hopefully 12x8ft. Once the yard is levelled and the gate opened up I'll bring the bike home and play about with layouts for doors etc.~
I've seen and helped assemble metal sheds that are bloody awful structures. er there any decent options for them?
Im going to buy a modular shed so a bit of flexibility re layout and can add an extra door myself if needed.
Budget? seems up to around £1.5k maybe a bit less, That should buy a 12mm + thick tongue and groove thing
Access will be through an 8ft wall. into the yard I'll be building a gate that will keep ne'er do wells out; well up to a point.

So how to prepare the base? I'll be keeping a motorbike in there.
Can I just build it on the existing concrete? bolt it down? I have no idea.
there is loads of conflicting advice online.
Builders look like something out of Twintown, but have done a good job on the retaining wall. A mate who is a civil engineer has give that the thumbs up.
here they are on the remains of the old 'shed' you could not call it a structure
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As its a walled yard, you could consider rebuilding the outside walls as part of your shed, gaining extra inches. Door size and positioning are very important especially for moving bikes in and out!

 

[bricol]

I bought a Tiger shed as a temporary measure 15 yrs ago - still looking good today - every year it gets a coating of Ronseal ducks back stuff. It sits on railway sleepers, so high enough to avoid splashback from rain etc. It's got enough stuff in it not worry about it blowing away, so it's simply sat there.

I recently sat a summer house on paving slabs - and that I screwed some long ground anchors through the floor in the corners, as well as screwed it to the slabs in other places - so far, both it and the slabs are still there.

It was quick to put up and use - and for any future buyer of my house, as easily taken down and dumped.

If you are felling strong, with some mates also feeling strong - sometimes people get rid of concrete sectional garages for free - but then theres the hassle of getting it down, putting it back up, fitting a new roof . . .

 

[8ob]

Budget? seems up to around £1.5k maybe a bit less, That should buy a 12mm + thick tongue and groove thing

Thats going to be a bit tight for anything decent, a decent base will eat half of that,do the chuckle brothers work for nothing?

Bob

 

[chunkolini]

I've had the old 'retaining wall' replaced ha! It was a skin of textured blocks and a few bricks somehow supporting tons of loose dirt.
There built a proper block one and we're having a new slab poured on top of the old one up to the level of the street.
I should have detailed this earlier.
Old 'wall' A shocker

New wall

Four courses of blocks at the back to street level.

The Chuckle Brothers have worked hard.
Bless them.
Plan A.
When the slab is poured build a new pillar on the wall and make a 1.2m gateway. That's if the wall stays up
Then bring the bike home and work out a lay out for the shed; doors etc.

 

[dieselsamurai]

Tbh wish I'd broken up & sold the shed at the gate as firewood! Not big enough, given the space I have I should have made it bigger. Next shed will be pallet wall construction.

My friend has built a few sheds out of pallets now and they are really strong and have lasted well . he put Celotex in from the top i think 75mm sheets worked well. decent shiplap on the outside and ply on the inside

 

[gaz1]

the wall where the gate is id have ripped it down filled the hole with it as its hardcore anyway

then ive got room to play with for the new shed and you get a better view of how big you want to build it

thats until the mrs sees what room she gets and decides on a summer house for her

 

[iNf]

Make sure they put a damp proof sheet underneath the concrete base if you are keeping your bikes in there.

 

[Shedendman]

And watch those pies

 

[chunkolini]

then when we are all done I'll get some galv pipe and build a roofy thing over the front for shade and to cover working outside in the rain. And put some scaff planks and a balustrade up and have a beer drinking deck with a view right across swansea Bay

 

[CompoSimmonite]

What about pre fabricated concrete panels from a garage ? Often they can be got free if you dismantle.
Personally I'd be tempted to have a 10' shipping container Hi-Ab'd into position.