Paint spraying set up??

[APEX phil]

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HI Apex Phil here.

I am new to forum I am all about painting bike fairings but still very inexperienced.

I have recently built a dedicated 'spray room'. It is 7ft x 12 ft. and 6 ft at top of walls. The room is insulated and has an infra red heater. Also has a large extractor fan and inlet vent. both filtered with glass filter currently.

I plan (hope) to use 2k paint quite a lot. For this I have a 'Sperian' air fed mask with filter pack. I run a 3 hp 14cfm Wolf 90 litre compressor with a Clarke water trap and copper pipe plus drain valve set up. I have 3/8 hose and a Devilbiss SLG £60 1.3 gun at the moment.

Does my overall set up sound decent? What could I improve? After testing my system I certainly think I need a much bigger compressor now. My compressor is working flat out and minimal pressure to gun!

If I find the '2k/ air fed mask' route not an option, Does anyone have any opinions or thoughts about using other/lesser paint types for bike fairings and helmets??


Thanks for thoughts.

 

[paintpot]

14cfm alright, its the tank size that's letting you down.you could get another compressor for the air mask,That in mind you will have two air lines.

 

[Chipper]

I made a Y-piece type thing out of steel tube, to join them so's to have one airline, going to the belt. The gun comes off a short hose from that.
The Y-thing is 'solid' to one comp but has a short hose going to the other, to allow for vibes etc.

 

[paintpot]

chipper you could of bought one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIR-LINE-...Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item23162003f4

 

[Chipper]

I got one of those when I linked two comps before, but made my pipe thing cos of the space where my comps are now. Don't know how to describe it well, it's like a very wide "U" shape with stumpy legs and a vertical bit off of that.

 

[paintpot]

sounds like your describing a transvestite

 

[Chipper]

Will try and get a pic, not a very exciting thing though.

 

[APEX phil]

Hi Guys,,

In your opinions/ experience . . .What tank size is ideal 200 or perhaps 270??
I have yet to aquire a new compressor so I may begin work proper.

 

[APEX phil]

Currently looking at the Clarke SE29 OD 270 twin motor jobbie.
(I really need one tank solution due to space restrictions.)

 

[APEX phil]

Also does anyone have a good link/ recommendation of who/where to buy a triple air filter pack?? ( as in the paint tutorial ...down to 0..1 micron jobbie)

 

[Chipper]

I got a Kestrel one from spraygunsdirect.co.uk, though I think it's an Italian one re-badged. Found the filters slightly hard to search for, terms like "filter" and "spray" don't exactly narrow things much... so looked for paint supply shops instead, plenty out there.
Using a Draper 10 micron reg/filter before those.

Jeez that comp's pricey, my two cost less than half that. Could you 'stack' two? I considered making a 'rack' but have them side by side at the mo.

 

[leeruddock]

i would not bother buying another compressor instead i would buy a stand alone reciever and have that as a stored volume of air. Also i would reccomend going for a battery powered breathing air mask instead of using breathing air filters, as the filters and filter elements are expensive. Hope this helps?

Cheers
Lee

 

[eil]

i would not bother buying another compressor instead i would buy a stand alone reciever and have that as a stored volume of air. Also i would reccomend going for a battery powered breathing air mask instead of using breathing air filters, as the filters and filter elements are expensive. Hope this helps?

Cheers
Lee

Which battery powered air masks are for use with 2K.

 

[leeruddock]

check out this link http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediaw...VuQEcuZgVs6EVs6E666666--&fn=CHPSABROCHURE.pdf if you want a price let me know.

cheers
lee

 

[eil]

Shame on 3M, look at the state of the airline used by their model in the pic on page 2. Cant see a battery powered air mask for use with 2K on that link though.

 

[APEX phil]

Don't think its an option to be fair.. .
I personally don't see how a mask can give the filtration effective to equate to fresh and fully filtrated to be breathable 'safe' levels (as 'proper'air fed mask set up delivers) IMO

 

[APEX phil]

Think I know which way I will go now....Thanks to Chipper, Paintpot and Lee for your help.

 

[eil]

Filtered air fed mask is the only recommended way to go for spraying 2K, I thought there might have been a development that I didn't know about regarding the battery powered ones.

 

[pedrobedro]

Shame on 3M, look at the state of the airline used by their model in the pic on page 2. Cant see a battery powered air mask for use with 2K on that link though.

To be fair it looks like the airline goes to the tool he is using

 

[eil]

To be fair it looks like the airline goes to the tool he is using

Looks like his other tool is going to be getting full line pressure on it sometime soon