Rod position for vertical welds?

[SiPMerlin150]

Hello again, I'm having a dabble at vertical runs now i've got horizontal strings consistent, At first as you can see in the pictures, i had a problem of the pool running downwards (Even when 3.2mm were used at lower amps).

My rod position was roughly 45 degrees BUT i was holding the rod holder higher than the rod tip, if you know what i mean, so i was pulling the rod up rather than pushing. I think that was why i was having problems, I think i have got the position right now, which is elped more by keeping a very tight arc, but for reassurance, i've added a picture of how i'm positioning the rod where i seem to get the best results...

 

[oilcooled :)]

center 3 arent bad, your doing a butt vertical up, well i know your only practicing on a plate, the root kinda would loook like that if it was in a V preperared joint, and as you add second and third pass you would be widening your weave, using a figure of 8 on its side like this 00 if you get me, to get a respectable bead, ive seen worse first attempts, alot worse, make sure your using rods at lower end of amp range, and a good tight arc, rod should be perpendicular to welding or 15 degrees down from being perpedicular i think

 

[SiPMerlin150]

I'm guessing that the 3.2mm rods are being fed 75-85 amps, hence why they look so cold and stacked, otherwise they run like candle wax. The 3 you mention that are better looking where done in the with the rod in the position shown in the 2nd picture i 'push' upwards keeping the tip of the rod as close to the metal plate as possible without stalling the arc (this also helps to reduce the little hot blobs that launch themselves upward)

I get what you mean with the figure of 8 movement, (should i be turning up the amps to avoid slag inclusions when the figure of 8 crosses in the center?)

I keep surprising myself at how well i'm picking techniques up!

 

[shenion]

My Lincoln and Miller guides recommend rod at 90 degrees or a few degrees down for vertical up.

 

[SiPMerlin150]

My Lincoln and Miller guides recommend rod at 90 degrees or a few degrees down for vertical up.

I tried that and it did work, by keeping the rod out of the slag as best as possible even reduces the little fire balls i was getting too

 

[Bsmith]

My Lincoln and Miller guides recommend rod at 90 degrees or a few degrees down for vertical up.

I agree, but have your rod holder upside down to how its shown in top picture, or have the rod straight out or in line with the holder for better control. (Hope you understand me).

 

[rocket01]

I always keep the arc tight although no tighter than the diameter of the electrode and pointed 10 degrees upwards. Try to keep a steady speed of travel which will prevent undercutting of the parent metal.