Setting up conpressor

[sheps]

Hi
I have this Wolf Sioux 50L compressor and am planning on using it in my garage for just a bit of DIY on my cars. I also currently have this impact wrench and will probably get some more air tools with time. They would only be used occasionally, so not really any heavy use.

I see from reading the forum, that I would be best to run a 10mm (3/8) ID diameter line for the impact wrench. The best way seems to be running an additional regulator from the bolt on the end of the tank - I think this is 1/2". Or, would I be ok just using my current 10m long, 8mm ID, line that I already have, just connected to the normal regulator on the compressor?

So if going for a new regulator and 10mm (3/8) line, presumably I am wanting the largest diameter of air line and connectors for as long as possible. Therefore, am I correct in thinking that I would connect everything up in the following order:
Reservoir tank --- 1/2" to 1/2" nipple --- Regulator --- nipple --- 10m air hose --- Quick release coupling --- whip hose

So, firstly, am I correct in my assumptions above?
Secondly, the regulators above has a 1/2" outlet, so am I best connecting to the air hose with a 1/2" to 1/4" nipple? Or, am I best chopping off the 1/4" connector on the end of the air hose and using a 1/2" connector - surely having a 1/4" connector between the regulator and hose will immediately introduce a constriction, or is that irrelevant?

Really sorry for the basic questions and the long post!

Thanks
Ben

 

[Daz1968]

10mm hose should be fine for an impact wrench, I use a 10mm with my da sander and it never struggles, I used a 1/2" regulator before the hose and the 1/4" connectors on hose have never been a problem, you ideally want the regulator a distance from the compressor to give the air chance to cool to enable the water to be removed at the regulator.

 

[sheps]

Many thanks for your reply.

I hadn't considered the need to put the regulator some distance away from the compressor but that does make sense (and also makes things a bit more complex). I am therefore surely going to have to use a couple of lengths of hose as I could mount the regulator on my garage wall 3-4m away from the compressor.

If I am going to be using couple of shorter hoses, then surely it would be cheaper for me to buy just the hose and put my own connectors on of this type (but I would use 1/2 bsp to 10mm).

What is the safe way to attach those tail connectors? Jubilee clips?

Thanks

 

[Mr shiney]

I use 8mm plastic pipe on quick connect all around my workshop with no problem at all. 8mm will move 43 Cfm FAD.

 

[brightspark]

I use 8mm plastic pipe on quick connect all around my workshop with no problem at all. 8mm will move 43 Cfm FAD.

i use 10mm bore minimum blasting with 3mm nozzle and using the 3/4 impact gun any less and the loss of power is noticable irespective of figures that are quoted

 

[Mr shiney]

i use 10mm bore minimum blasting with 3mm nozzle and using the 3/4 impact gun any less and the loss of power is noticable irespective of figures that are quoted

I use 8mm for the same jobs....

 

[brightspark]

I use 8mm for the same jobs....

mebbe u dont notice the diffrence but i do even when im using my road compressor with the larger gear i can notice loss of power with longer lengths of hose like when there 3/4 bore pipes about 20meters long as against 3m.i can easily notice the diffrence when the nozzle or the blast hose is worn

 

[Woody.v8]

mebbe u dont notice the diffrence but i do even when im using my road compressor with the larger gear i can notice loss of power with longer lengths of hose like when there 3/4 bore pipes about 20meters long as against 3m.i can easily notice the diffrence when the nozzle or the blast hose is worn

And me, long runs of pipe or small dia kills the power of air tools.

 

[Daz1968]

I changed from an 8mm hose to 10mm for my da sander and its better with the larger hose. I do run 22mm pipe from compressor to garage I work in, then use 15mm drop legs down to regulator and filters, then a 10mm hose to tools. I use an 8mm one to my airfed mask belt pack when spraying but this needs less pressure than tools.

 

[AndyStobbs]

Jubilee clips are fine. Use hose tails for fitting into the pipe. Things called twin ear o clips are also available, for use instead of Jubilee clips. They are crimped on and not re-usable.

 

[Mr shiney]

I would also suggest you take a look at the Dropout Filter system. I have one of the DO300 units fitted to my compressor and it produces totally clean dry air without the need for desiccated dryers etc.

I am very impressed with it. No connection to the manufacturer!!

 

[sheps]

many thanks for all the helpful replies - I think I know what connectors, clips, etc I need to get now.
Ben

 

[Daz1968]

How good are the dropout filters as I really can't see how anything can remove vapour from the air only liquid water so if air is warm and it cools after the filter surely it will drop more water further down the line.
I use drop legs in pipe work, a 5micron filter regulator at end of line followed by a devilbiss coalescing filter, then the carbon filter in mask belt and devilbiss whirlwind at the spraygun, don't have any water issues but if the dropout filter is a one stop solution would consider getting one.

 

[Mr shiney]

They are amazing. I have a Hyrovane compressor that cascades out from the onboard receiver to an external vertical receiver and from there into a standard coalescing filter then into the Dropout filter. The vertical receiver acts to cool the vapour first and then the filters pick up the rest. I have on each outlet a further coalescing filter regulator and do not get a single drop of moisture through to the bowls in them.

I have been incredibly impressed with its performance.