SprayMax 2K Epoxy Primer Filler aerosol

[Ginger]

Hello,

I am working on my car here and there and the car sits around in a damp shed for weeks at a time with no work being done. I have replaced sills, inner and outer arches and rear valence and want to use this SprayMax 2K Epoxy Primer Filler aerosol to seal my repairs after filling before moving onto the next bit. (i ahve never filled before and am expecting this to take a while).

I have asked the supplier at Uk Paints and he as suggested that a A1P2 filter jet half mask respirator would be sufficient for using this product.

I have also studied the tech sheet and it does not apper to contain Isocyanate.

Can anyone asdvise. Will I be safe using this with a A1P2 filter? Will it seal my panels to moisture?

I have attached some links:

http://www.spraymax.de/index.php?id=351&L=1

http://www.ukpaints.co.uk/spraymax.php?subsearch=spraymax

Many thanks

 

[steveo3002]

sounds handy for us at home users

does anywhere online sell it

 

[Ginger]

Yep, uk paints sell it. Is it safe though?

 

[HughF]

If it is epoxy, then yes.

Isocyanate is normally only present in Isocyanate cured 2 pack polyurethanes.

Remember, not everything labeled as '2 pack' is an isocyanate cured polyurethane. 2 pack etch is often cellulose (lacquer for those in the states) primer with an acid component - still 2 pack.

 

[tysonn]

If you search Ebay for "Gerson" there are masks they reckon are safe for use with 2 pack iso paints?

 

[HughF]

If you search this forum, you'll find a lengthy discussion on those very masks...

 

[steveo3002]

ebay seller says...

Government legislation states that anybody spraying with isocyanates should always use a positive pressure air fed full face respiratory breathing system for full protection.


We say... cartridge masks alone are not sufficient, it is the responsability of the wearer/user to ensure it meets with their requirements, any doubts check with manufacturers website/s.

 

[Ginger]

I will not spray anything with Isocyanate. This is why I am interested in the SprayMax 2K Epoxy Primer Filler.

Uk paints says it is iso-free.
There is no mention of Isocyanate in the data sheet just epoxy constituents.
HughF suggest that if it’s epoxy then is does not contain Isocyanate.

Will I therefor be safe with an A1P2 filter?

My wife needs reassurances that I will not die while playing with my car so I need to be certain that what I use is relatively safe for the home user with appropriate safety equipment.

 

[HughF]

Regardless of whether it contains iso or not, you should be using epoxy primer anyway, everyone should, it's awesome stuff and 100 times better than acid etch.

Given that this is a forum and you or your wife might decide to sue me and whatnot, I'm not going to say any specific respirator will protect you, but I would suggest that a twin cartridge charcoal respirator will be fine. Put it this way, that's what I use for epoxy.

 

[steveo3002]

thier tech sheet says that mask is okay , if you still have concerns speak with the maker as they should know

 

[Ginger]

I have checked the data sheet and am waiting to hear form the manufacturer regarding the mask but I am more than convinced the product does not contain Isocyanate and that an A1P2 filter half mask will be adequate protection especially as I am spraying in an open ended shed.

Thanks you all for providing a sounding board for talking through this.

Can't wait to get down to the car over easter and start filling and spraying.

 

[ColourweldUK]

Another possible alternative is this Mipa product http://www.mipa-paints.com/gb/pi/spray/2KomponentenEPGrundierfillerSpray.pdf

The safety data sheet is at http://www.mipa-paints.com/gb/sdb/spray/2K-EP-Grundierfiller-Spray_GB.pdf

Might be worth a look as it doesn't appear to have any Iso's in it. From selling some of their other Primer Aerosols I can say that the Mipa ones are generally very good. Any Mipa dealer should be able to supply these for you.