tool security

[gaz1]

ive just bought myself a lathe and now im looking at securing it to something strong rather than it being pinched from the shed the area i want the lathe in is displayed in the photos below

the door is a steel factory fire door and fastened with coach bolts
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/...rkshop-security-door.20688/page-2#post-476721

also the welding table has been moved from the right to the left and thats going to be at the side of the wood burner rocket
i know some of the heat will transfere into the steel table

my shed is not brilliant at the moment still sorting things out and throwing out what i dont want the red box i hate with a vengence but im also looking to secure this somewhere so thought id ask you guys where best to put it and secure it as still need access to it
it cant go under the welding table as thats my store areas as well and i also need to find space for the pillar drill will not fit under the steel shelving at end of shed to the work top

the vices im considering using the tilt and slide under the welding table method but im also considering using the end of the table as a bending machine area or rolling machine on its side about 30" high

 

[Kent]

Face facts there is too much in that space, sorry but welding or grinding in there is not wise as is. I can see paints and I bet there are lots of potential flammables like ploy bags. you might not even see the fire till it got hold big time, besides the obvious clutter hazards and the inability to work on much.

Do yourself a favour get some stuff moved out, you cant work in a store with a 3ft walk space, if you set it on fire your unlikely to get paid by the insurer, if effects your home worse still.

 

[MattF]

I'd agree with Kent, and I'm a habitual clutterer/hoarder. That space is far too crammed to be useful as is. Sort some proper storage, whether it be shelving or cabinets, along one wall and go from there.

 

[DanielW]

Your lathe needs to be on a solid base ie make firm metal stand and bolt it to the floor if concrete? if there's one thing a lathe needs to be its vibration free.

 

[Kent]

It looks like its already full of cupboards and shelves already there's a fitted kitchen in the place. Seriously its got to be an ongoing battle for us all to not deposit more stuff in the shop

 

[DanielW]

As far as I can see there is only need for one worktable in such a small space and if cabinets are wanted? then wall mount ones as high as possible or just a few shelves,cabinets take up too much room for my liking.

 

[gaz1]

lol thanks for the replys so far

ive only got enough room of 10' x 9" thats enough for my hobby and also the building trade that ive only just back into this last year the back shed is less room 10' x 8" and thats used for storage purposes of junk so im told

the walk way is 4' welding table is 4' width x 3' depth leaving 2' the wood burner fits into an area 30" x 3' closest to the door hence the reason the homemade flue chimney is to the left of the shed

the front left theres a problem as access needs to be there as the mains burst once even though it was 10" down the hole they needed access to the back of the shed to stop the leak

a metal frame can be built up using the far wall as the wall is solid hard as rock to chisel out the door frame is also coach bolted to this type of brick the last time i tackled the bricks was with a grinder and thats to fit the security door the bricks was a swine to break up even using the grinder to chop a hole the size of the door

grinding has been done in the garden infront of shed for the sheet steel and also within the 30" door way with 4 1/2" grinder i also have the 14" metal chop saw never used it as of yet

 

[Richard.]

It's not an answer to your question but I'm gonna go down the road the others have and strongly advise you re address your storage issues. A welding bench in there is a catastrophe waiting to happen. Wood, plastic, textiles, paint, compressed gas all in a space of 9 square Mtrs and that's just what's visible. It only takes one spark to smoulder behind one of those units on a kitkat rapper for a few minutes after you've closed the door and then you won't need to worry about thieves pinching your lathe.

 

[MattF]

It looks like its already full of cupboards and shelves already there's a fitted kitchen in the place.

I thought it seemed to have a lot of storage at first glance too, but when you look at it, it's storage which is making poor use of the space. Some racking sized to suit against one wall, with some drawer units and the like on some shelves, would improve the storage capabilities no end, by the looks of it.

Seriously its got to be an ongoing battle for us all to not deposit more stuff in the shop

You make that sound more like a question than a simple, inevitable fact.

 

[gaz1]

heres how it used to be until i changed it

 

[gaz1]

anyway have done a rip out of shed wasnt too happy with it since ive done some changes and a wall is being built at back of the lathe as well



seen as ive upgraded on the lathe and got an ml7 im thinking of a new stand for it


ive already got the measurements of the lathe and its 48" including the gearbox the stand with it i may not be keen upon until looking at it
the space i have is 5' so will easily fit into that space and also considering putting a tool box underneath the lathe due to space being reduced

the concrete is only inches thick i think however i am thinking of using I beam into the ground and cemented in of which i believe would be less vibration with the lathe



so now im looking for suggestions here
a, to secure the lathe to something solid
b, also as security as dont want it being pinched

 

[MattF]

I wouldn't overly worry regarding the stand, personally. A lot of old machines merely had a couple of rather frail looking, cast iron legs. Just make something solid, whether it be from wood or metal, which isn't prone to flexing. The weight of a good stand and the lathe alone is usually enough to hold it firmly in place. I'm personally not a fan of permanently affixing something, as once you do, its place is set, especially if you start laying plinths or bases specifically for that item. With regards to security, either get an alarm on the shed or hook the shed up to your house alarm.

 

[Richard.]

Or put mains voltage through the door handle (Joke)

Just remember to turn it off before going in there yourself

 

[Wendelspanswick]

I am a great fan of the blank shotgun cartridge tripwire.

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2964

Just remember to deactivate before entering!

 

[eSCHEn]

I am a great fan of the blank shotgun cartridge tripwire.

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2964

Just remember to deactivate before entering!

Yeah I get the feeling that might not be entirely legal given what my company's web filter does:

LOL

 

[MattF]

Lock the wife in the shed overnight.

 

[TurtleDude]

Lock the wife in the shed overnight.

She might start welding and build herself a 'battlebus' like the A-Team always used to when they were held hostage in a barn full of steel plate, welding gear and an old school bus. Lol.

 

[MattF]

A Battle-axe Battle-bus.

 

[brightspark]

blank firing cartriges fixed in to a spigot is not classed as a fire arm and is legal / put the cartrige in a tube and it becomes a fire arm. i have one on my back gate and the old bill saw it and whinged. i told them to go do there homework and get back to me after doing so needless to say i still have it and nothing said

 

[eSCHEn]

Well you live and learn. How do you get the blank cartridges without a certificate?