737 Max8. Safe or not safe?

[KemppiFrog]

I work for Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden) and we got called in on Tuesday to do a Channel 5 filming thing on 'why Trump chose a 747 as his new Airforce One when it is such an old design'. Without prior warning I gave Bruce an engine failure and an engine fire, killing both engines on one side, just as we took off from New York (I did mention it was a Sim, didn't I?) and it flew on as if nothing had happened. After climbing to 10,000 feet he spiralled it down to do a single-pilot approach off of a tight turn to replicate the sort of evasion technique used to spoof missiles.
That 747 is built like a brick whatsit-house and has impeccable manners. Try that sort of thing in a 737 and you'd be a smoking hole in the ground. I've also got to say that Bruce can still fly very nicely, for an old fart.

Did I tell you how we had an engine quit (the only one..) in our Mooney just after take off? (did I mention it was NOT a sim) The next couple of mins where more than interesting...

Going back to the Max, bits of info leaking out about poor quality in the sub assemblies in the fuselarge. One begins to wonder if it will ever ever get back in service.

 

[CoValent]

That 747 is built like a brick whatsit-house and has impeccable manners. Try that sort of thing in a 737 and you'd be a smoking hole in the ground. I've also got to say that Bruce can still fly very nicely, for an old fart.

Years (and years) ago, I had a day at the BA training centre nr. Heathrow. A fellow club member was a training captain with BA, and he was doing periodic sim checks with 747 crew. It was a fascinating and very educational experience to sit in the jump seat for the day and see the pros at work. I had a 45 minute session at the end - did a few memorable approaches including the old "chequer board" approach at Kai Tak! The old classic 747 sim had extremely crude graphics by the standards of today, but the 100% realism of the cockpit layout more than made up for it.

 

[Seadog]

Another problem

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/26/united-extends-ban-on-boeing-737-max-after-regulator-finds-new-problem?

 

[Bullet2012]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48752932
Seems it’s not ready yet

Yep seen that

Another problem

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/26/united-extends-ban-on-boeing-737-max-after-regulator-finds-new-problem?

 

[mart]

What is going on with this company !! ?

Airline regulators in the US have formally launched an investigation of Boeing's processes, after a door plug blew off one of its planes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67943988

 

[MetalMonkey]

What is going on with this company !! ?

Airline regulators in the US have formally launched an investigation of Boeing's processes, after a door plug blew off one of its planes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67943988

There is already another thread on this https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/boeing-737-max-again.134486/

 

[mart]

There is already another thread on this https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/boeing-737-max-again.134486/

This thread of the 737 max has been running for 4 years.

 

[MetalMonkey]

This thread of the 737 max has been running for 4 years.

This thread is about the -8 and specifically the MCAS issue.
The article you linked to (and subsequently the other thread) is about the -9 and the recent door plug incident.
The -8 doesn't have these doors (apart from the 200 variant IIRC) so is unaffected by that particular problem.

A lot of information has already been covered on the door topic, which is why I linked to the other thread for you as it is more relevant and to save discussing it all again in two places.
Hope that helps!

 

[Munkul]

The first problem was a design issue.

This one is a quality assurance issue.

 

[Seadog]

Thank goodness

 

[Tinbasherdan]

 

[Wildefalcon]

Do we get to keep the ratchet?

 

[500e]

Was already in the ticket price, your welcome

 

[daleyd]

That’ll be a chargeable extra on Ryanair

 

[dobbslc]

That’ll be a chargeable extra on Ryanair

They'd use Silverline ones though...