air fed mask - just about to spray need help

[danelectro]

I can't believe you just said that, considering you're a "Senior Member" on this site i find your comments disgusting.

This stuff is lethal, and can cause SERIOUS LONG TERM HEALTH problems, and your advice is basically "get a good lung full and if you feel a bit sickly then your gear is dodgy"

Firstly, you don't "feel a bit sickly" what happens is: you can't get a breath, which slowly gets worse to the point where breathing is impossible, then you go to hospital and end up on oxygen, then medication to control your OCCUPATIONAL ASTHMA for the rest of your life.

Secondly, as far as Air fed masks are concerned. There is info stated that comes with the mask that tells you what equipment should be used (i.e. Minimum CFM of comp, filtration etc etc) and the carbon filter has a shelf life and MAXIMUM number of hours it can be used.

No, you're right, it's not bomb proof. but this info is based on full blown trials in lab conditions and not using human beings as the testers.

After all that has been said about 2K and air fed masks, you should be really ashamed of yourself. and as said above, considering you're a senior member, you must remember that many people may take your word as the gospel. Absolutely shocking.

 

[the snooper]

danelectro

i think you have got the wrong end of the stick the op made reference to isocyanates being odorless all brightspark was saying is that the op would start to feel ill if the mask wasnt working right and at those first signs some fresh air should make him feel better.
i didnt see anywhere where bs suggested that the op "got a lung full and if you feel sickly then your gear is dodgy".
first of all how could you as you put it "get a lung full "unless you knew your mask was faulty then anyone doing that would be stupid
also its the solvent that people have an instant bad reaction too which causes your shortage of breath.
the isocyanates can as you say give you occupational asthma which everyone wants to avoid as its permanent but this isnt an instant thing.
i suggest everyone interested has a look here on the hse web site no violent reactions are mentioned to have occured by those exposed to 2k.

 

[danelectro]

danelectro

i think you have got the wrong end of the stick the op made reference to isocyanates being odorless all brightspark was saying is that the op would start to feel ill if the mask wasnt working right and at those first signs some fresh air should make him feel better.

IF someone is sensitive (for whatever reason - not always previous exposure) isocyanates can attack from the initial inhalation, and cause the recipient to be short of breath and feel tightness in the chest.

i didnt see anywhere where bs suggested that the op "got a lung full and if you feel sickly then your gear is dodgy".
first of all how could you as you put it "get a lung full "unless you knew your mask was faulty then anyone doing that would be stupid

One deep breath is a lung full "if the paint fumes of 2k were affecting u it just makes u feel a bit sickly" Everyone should assume that they do.

also its the solvent that people have an instant bad reaction too which causes your shortage of breath.

WRONG - You are more likely to feel light headed with the solvents (i.e. thinners) BUT, THIS can be overcome by moving to fresh air.

the isocyanates can as you say give you occupational asthma which everyone wants to avoid as its permanent but this isnt an instant thing.

Yes you're right, but you fail to mention that once established, anything can actually kick off an attack. And if sensitive, a short exposure to isocyanates can cause a pretty much immediate reaction

i suggest everyone interested has a look here on the hse web site no violent reactions are mentioned to have occured by those exposed to 2k.

Read the first paragraph of this document.

My advice on this subject, don't take risks, get the right equipment and don't be flippant.