aluminium Ogee guttering (extruded or moulded?)

[foy9999]

I do a lot of gutter repairs on (expensive) aluminium guttering which hasn't been fitted well and leaks everywhere.

Usually just take it all off and start again ensuring the sealant is in between the jointing-plates and the gutters instead of put on over the joints.

Anyway I have has some jobs where parts of it have been replaced by GRP stuff and it never works out as the shape isn't identical.

I have been looking for months but can't find any stuff the same (new or used).

When you search online it seems to fall into 3 broad types: cast, moulded and extruded.

I know it's not cast but can't work out the difference between the other two

Also any of the new stuff I see listed isn't the same. It's often snap-fit of has a different lip on the front top.

I'm guessing most of the stuff I'm asked to work on has been up 20 years or so. Perhaps it's obsolete now but you can still get very old cast-iron gutters from 'heritage' specialists so mb it is available and I just can't find it

aluminium Ogee guttering with leaking joints

removed for repairs

corner section with joints re-sealed and new hardware

GRP section next to aluminium (leaking)

 

[gaz1]

i can suggest all i want

but i can tell you now the customer wont pay for it even if you get a very close match to what they have

 

[Maker]

i can suggest all i want

Go on then.

 

[Dee J]

Aluminium Moulded Ogee Gutters | Aluminium Moulded Ogee Guttering | Aluminium Moulded Ogee Gutter | Moulded Ogee Cast Iron Gutters | Traditional Moulded Ogee Gutters | No 46 Gutters

Aluminium Moulded Ogee Guttering inspired by the 19th Century Cast Iron Gutters, a Traditional No 46 Moulded Ogee Gutter available in a Range of colours including Heritage Finish.

www.guttercrest.co.uk

Similar?

 

[Wozzaaah]

i can suggest all i want

but i can tell you now the customer wont pay for it even if you get a very close match to what they have

Nice helpful post that Gaz!

 

[Erie Fred]

Extruded vs molded....I watched a t.v. program (this old house) where they pulled a fiberglass mold
from an old wood gutter, and were hand laying up new fiberglass ones from it, much like boat building.

Extruded fiberglass many times is called "Pulltrusion" where the fibers are pulled thru the vat of resin, and then
thru a heated steel plate "die". Much more accurate on the Inside & outside, easier to make the joints up.

 

[gaz1]

Nice helpful post that Gaz!

the post is simple but truthful

the customer may want that style of expensive guttering but they are not going to want to pay for the time for it to be made or for the equipment, if that style of guttering dosnt exist

as the guttering can be made out of tin plate rolled out and shaped into the exact form just by rolling it and thats just to get a really good match to get it to seal to each other

or user makes up his own dies up and rolls out his own design in layers its the closest match your going to get

then all you need is a packer piece to match the level of the old guttering and seal both layers up

its either replace the whole guttering which is going to be the cheapest alternative

 

[500e]

We have rolled/seamless gutter been on the house since built no problems 30+ years
The outlet connections are formed rubber that are like a big grommet, the cut the holes with a BIG Qmax cutter not a pair of snips.
The last 2 houses we have had were seamless gutter

 

[JimmyS]

Is the old stuff possibly made by Alumasc originally? We have alumasc aluminium ogee gutter on part of the house, I managed to find stuff that was the same dims but cheaper. It sounds similar to ours. I had to take the whole lot down clean/ paint and reseal. I will try and find the company details I got it from. Was couple of yrs ago.

 

[JimmyS]

Just checked mine was 5" alumasc ogee and matched exactly profile 46 from gutters direct. http://www.gutters-direct.co.uk/ or http://www.guttersdirectonline.co.uk/
Still not particularly cheap but it meant I could use the old stuff and extend.

 

[foy9999]

i can suggest all i want

but i can tell you now the customer wont pay for it even if you get a very close match to what they have

How do you know what the customer will and will not want?

I've explained in detail to them what the problems are and they are more than happy for me to go ahead with the repairs if I can source the parts

 

[foy9999]

Aluminium Moulded Ogee Gutters | Aluminium Moulded Ogee Guttering | Aluminium Moulded Ogee Gutter | Moulded Ogee Cast Iron Gutters | Traditional Moulded Ogee Gutters | No 46 Gutters

Aluminium Moulded Ogee Guttering inspired by the 19th Century Cast Iron Gutters, a Traditional No 46 Moulded Ogee Gutter available in a Range of colours including Heritage Finish.

www.guttercrest.co.uk

Similar?

I've looked at that link a few times and just have a feeling it's slightly different as 'mine' doesn't have the return-lip on the front top edge. That wouldn't be a huge issue but there could be other differences.

I guess the only way to tell is to buy a sample and try fitting it but then you are a day and £100 materials into the job with no guaranteed it's going to work out

on the look out for stuff identical to this

 

[500e]

Why not try asking if they will give you a sample, explain it has to fit existing, you only need 100mm

 

[frank horton]

if it was mine I'd take it down and sell it on.....
replace it with new.....saves all the worry and time.....

Take a look at the US,,,,fancy houses use polished copper guttering.......mmmmmmm.........

 

[JOEPRO]

There are modern PVC alternatives which have the texture and appearance of traditional cast aluminium guttering.

I have also specified and used these successfully on listed buildings with Historic Environment Department (NI) approval.

If it were me I would consider redoing the property or at least complete elevations on such a PBC product and send the original for salvage. Joining up etc doesn't sound like a good long term solution.

 

[Dee J]

I've looked at that link a few times and just have a feeling it's slightly different as 'mine' doesn't have the return-lip on the front top edge. That wouldn't be a huge issue but there could be other differences.

I guess the only way to tell is to buy a sample and try fitting it but then you are a day and £100 materials into the job with no guaranteed it's going to work out

on the look out for stuff identical to this

Commercial job... Bin it and replace with new - I spent too much of my own time in the past researching stuff for customers - and seldom covered the cost of my time. Home job with a craft and conservation outlook - then it's worth it (for personal satisfaction if nothing else)

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

This is the stuff I bought a while ago online...can't remember where from but I could look around if useful.

They had a bunch of profiles available...house is 1930s and very specific profile as I recall.

From the pics yours look a lot bigger.

 

[Bullet2012]

An elderly lady, who lived on the third floor of a house, broke her leg. As the doctor put a cast on it, he warned her not to climb any stairs. Several months later, the doctor took off the cast.

"Can I climb stairs now?" asked the little old lady.

"Yes," he replied.

"Thank goodness!" she said. "I'm sick and tired of shimmying up and down that drainpipe!"

”nearly as useful as Gazs comment.

 

[Smallfry]

Lindab ?

 

[foy9999]

if it was mine I'd take it down and sell it on.....
replace it with new.....saves all the worry and time.....

Take a look at the US,,,,fancy houses use polished copper guttering.......mmmmmmm.........

I'm hoping someone else will take theirs down and try to sell it on Gumtree or similar as an expert will tell them it can't be fixed and they're better off with plastic.

I've fixed one full side of this customers house and they are very pleased with it but we can't do the front as it's a complete mess due to the GRP parts being mixed-in with the aluminium.

It's just a waiting-game. I replaced a clay hip on a house which had been absent for 12 years or so. Took 18 months to gather suitable tiles. Doesn't seem that big a deal just now but searching for them and finding/buying in dribs n drabs is an absolute ball-ache for me