aluminium Ogee guttering (extruded or moulded?)

[foy9999]

There are modern PVC alternatives which have the texture and appearance of traditional cast aluminium guttering.

I have also specified and used these successfully on listed buildings with Historic Environment Department (NI) approval.

If it were me I would consider redoing the property or at least complete elevations on such a PBC product and send the original for salvage. Joining up etc doesn't sound like a good long term solution.

There's nothing wrong with the stuff that's on if it's installed/repaired properly.

It was installed incorrectly from the off. I've done one side of the house already and it's fine. Not taking it all off to replace with plastic.

It's quite simple: The sealant needs to be sandwiched between the jointing plates and the guttering.

I am also fixing similar guttering on blocks of flats where the ******** installers have done the exact same thing instead of following the manufacturer's guidance

this space needs to be filled with sealant

before joint is put on

then you get 'squidge'

one side of property repaired and repainted

leaking joints on gutters (4 storeys up) due to sealant applied outside joint

sealant has to go between these plates and the gutters

 

[gaz1]

at 18 months of storage id be charging the customer for it at 4.00 per week storage is the going rate

its either that or they store the materials themselves after finding them on there own

a yard will only take so much storage and its all based on the never never game

 

[foy9999]

Commercial job... Bin it and replace with new - I spent too much of my own time in the past researching stuff for customers - and seldom covered the cost of my time. Home job with a craft and conservation outlook - then it's worth it (for personal satisfaction if nothing else)

New gutters leak too.

All the guttering I repair was new at one point.

I've been called out to repair guttering which was installed the day before and leaking and installation-firm won't return to fix it .

 

[foy9999]

This is the stuff I bought a while ago online...can't remember where from but I could look around if useful.

They had a bunch of profiles available...house is 1930s and very specific profile as I recall.

From the pics yours look a lot bigger.
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That's nice.

Looks like cast-aluminium in Victorian Ogee style. It's amazing what variety of old styles you can still get rom specialists.

The stuff I need isn't old enough or rare enough for them to deal with I reckon.

The property I'm working on is about 80 years old I reckon and these gutters will have replaced the original cast ones probably 20 years ago but there's no way of knowing as there's no markings on them

 

[foy9999]

at 18 months of storage id be charging the customer for it at 4.00 per week storage is the going rate

its either that or they store the materials themselves after finding them on there own

a yard will only take so much storage and its all based on the never never game

You're full of fantastic advice gaz1

Except you can't tell me if the guttering is extruded or moulded - which was the original query

NB I didn't charge for storage but due to the hassle I asked him if I could take some rolls of lead that builders doing their extension removed from the original structure.

I perhaps got my £4 a week worth that way

 

[gaz1]

the original gutters was multi casted

same as cast iron gutters as they was all made in molded sand

if you want the originals then its either wait for them to come up or cast them yourself via molds

 

[outofthefire]

That profile doesn't look too complicated I'd have thought you should be able to get those profiles bent up out of sheet.

 

[foy9999]

That profile doesn't look too complicated I'd have thought you should be able to get those profiles bent up out of sheet.

Cool. I'll trail round the industrial estates asking if anyone can bend me up 10 metres of it and make accurate corners (which need welded).

Not sure where you live but where I do the staff can barely provide what they do stock, never mind produce stuff from scratch

 

[outofthefire]

Cool. I'll trail round the industrial estates asking if anyone can bend me up 10 metres of it and make accurate corners (which need welded).

Not sure where you live but where I do the staff can barely provide what they do stock, never mind produce stuff from scratch

The first result in google no need to trail anywhere, just search. If you can't find the profiles you need to do the job and someone offers a reasonable solution why are you being so ****** sarcastic. https://precision-metals.co.uk/

 

[foy9999]

The first result in google no need to trail anywhere, just search. If you can't find the profiles you need to do the job and someone offers a reasonable solution why are you being so ****** sarcastic. https://precision-metals.co.uk/

Ok just to please you I'll email them and see if I get a useful response. This isn't my 1st rodeo, believe it or not. When I was younger and less cynical I used to pick up the phone and visit places and you just get fobbed-off.

If it's not clickable/off-the-shelf I don't follow it up.

Sorry for the facetiousness but when you post a thread you get too many people telling you how to life your life rather than answer the question.

Personally I don't think Precision Metals will be remotely interested in something they can't make £200 an hour from

 

[gaz1]

try here

once you go past 100mm width you get depth of 100mm so it all depends on your guttering size



cast iron

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cast aluminium

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[outofthefire]

Ok just to please you I'll email them and see if I get a useful response. This isn't my 1st rodeo, believe it or not. When I was younger and less cynical I used to pick up the phone and visit places and you just get fobbed-off.

If it's not clickable/off-the-shelf I don't follow it up.

Sorry for the facetiousness but when you post a thread you get too many people telling you how to life your life rather than answer the question.

Personally I don't think Precision Metals will be remotely interested in something they can't make £200 an hour from

You can go feck yourself to please me. Quite frankly you've been negative to pretty much every comment on here and I really don't get why you even posted in the first place if your such an expert. The fact you mention rodeo is quite telling, because it sounds like you're a right cowboy.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Play nicely please, gentlemen.....

 

[foy9999]

You can go feck yourself to please me. Quite frankly you've been negative to pretty much every comment on here and I really don't get why you even posted in the first place if your such an expert. The fact you mention rodeo is quite telling, because it sounds like you're a right cowboy.

I posted to see what the difference between moulded and extruded was.....

 

[foy9999]

So I got a reply from Precision Metals (Swanston St, Glasgow)

The Operations Director said

Hi Graham,
Thanks for the enquiry.
I am afraid we don’t have the required tooling to form this Ogee profile so will have to regret this enquiry unfortunately. Apologies.