am I there yet :-)

[wheresmejumper]

(wheresmejumper) i understood what u ment mate your tip was for practice no structural or stress related welding projects.

No problem.do whatever works best for you

 

[Rrunnach]

As stated in post 10.................doh!!

 

[wheresmejumper]

Up, down, left and, right. One still requires to distinguish slag from molten deposit underneath slag, it's a fundamental!

Slag and molten metal have different densities.how they react in different positions is more of a fundamental than distinguishing between the two with rutile electrodes.
Basic or cel is a different matter

 

[wheresmejumper]

As stated in post 10.................doh!!

So we can practice with scummy rusty steel cos chalk works on it
but we cant grind tramlines because thats not good practice?
yeah

 

[Rrunnach]

Slag and molten metal have different densities.how they react in different positions is more of a fundamental than distinguishing between the two with rutile electrodes.
Basic or cel is a different matter

S

So we can practice with scummy rusty steel cos chalk works on it
but we cant grind tramlines because thats not good practice?
yeah

I never said you couldn't, nor did I say "not good practice" or, is the above remark directed a Welder Paul?

 

[Rrunnach]

Slag and molten metal have different densities.how they react in different positions is more of a fundamental than distinguishing between the two with rutile electrodes.
Basic or cel is a different matter

6010/11/13's............7018's (which is the range I work with most of the time) all produce slag, same fundamental applies, differentiate molten slag from from molten weld deposit underneath protected area, irrelevant of weld position, I have lads working global, trained on this fundamental principle...........I must be doing something wrong?

 

[wheresmejumper]

Whatever works for you mate

 

[davidjohnperry]

My question next is are sif rods any good for practice I use fincord or murex for working projects but im not gunna use expensive rods for practice

 

[Rrunnach]

Whatever works for you mate

And many others I have dealt with over too many years to mention!

 

[norlander]

I did put a root in and welded it over with a weave over im still trying hard to perfect my welding as ive been constantly told im no welder and ill never become a good one im just out to prove to me I can weld ok.

don't listen to comments like that-everybody started out putting down pigeon poo, your most important statement is that you are trying to perfect your welding which displays the (well, in my view anyway) correct mindset.
This is all off the top of my head from my days as a site and shop welder welding Vup in 19 hundred knife fork and spoon:

think you used 1 rod size at 2 different amps? I used same amps, 2 different rod sizes usually 10 root 8 cap (somebody will put those sizes into euro speak).

Very often I would knock out everything with a 10 on hot amps-you have to watch your arc- tight for thinner stuff or you will undercut it, looser for the heavier stuff- run up on thicker stuff and walk into thinner if welding different thicknesses to each other.It was a long walk back to the plant to change amps and long cables suck juice-but thats a welders war story and you should not have that problem.

Wheres the sun/light source? -sometimes you cannot see where you are going due to light behind you or shadow on the job- don't guess where you are going and sort it (jacket over helmet, spare gloves stuffed in helmet sides or switch to hand held shield-your wrist and hand shield have multi angles and distance from your face that your headmask does not).

I always used stop n start for Vup- which is why your weld may look different to my eye-looks pretty tidy, might want to practice sparking up on the workpiece before the actual run to get the rod in condition to avoid weak start( not easy to describe in words).

What electrode holder have you got?-my preference is for this type http://toolstoday.co.uk/product/771...00-amp-02720?gclid=CJDdv-PyxL0CFWT4wgodA3EAZw decent ones grip the rod and you can (carefully) bend it or bend it and then loosen it and turn it and reclamp it to suit the run, and you can have various grips on the holder. If you stick, you may have to unscrew the the handle and leave the rod stuck but does not happen that often.

Always preferred ESAB OK rods-but that was when Pontious Pilate was a ration storeman and Ceasar was a lance corporal.

Have fun improving, if you dont like it- cut it out and do it again and find out why it was not so good. HTH.

 

[davidjohnperry]

Ive got the mindset I want to be a welder a good welder and a good fitter I have unlimited resources to practice on thanks to my dad scraps business and I get pipe from the pipefitter crew I work with all I need is time ill keep sharing my work as long as kind people like you all comment and point me in the right direction. Thanks again guys uv been a great help till v up peice 6 I guess lol