slim_boy_fat
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Kent
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Without kidding I have had sub 1/2" groups at 220 yards from quality factory in 243 win
Federal with the 70grn nosler .
I can only match that with my reloads. If I was shooting at 600-1000 yards good handload would paste any factory though.
The head separation on Lapua if its occurred within ten reloads is most likely a sizing error or a rifle issue Imo.
Federal with the 70grn nosler .
I can only match that with my reloads. If I was shooting at 600-1000 yards good handload would paste any factory though.
The head separation on Lapua if its occurred within ten reloads is most likely a sizing error or a rifle issue Imo.
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Factory .357 magnum £46+/100, reloads £16/100, allowing for 10% of cases lost or trodden on. It's not just about economy though, for most of the obsolete rifles I shoot factory ammo isn't available so brass is purchased or formed from other brass and home loaded. To me reloading is just another pleasurable part of the whole shooting sports experience.
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That IS significant.
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Never found a factory loaded round for my 243 that could do that, have for the 270.
The Lapua brass was one time loaded, manufacturing error. They aren’t perfect
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Afterthought to my above post ^^Over what sort of range?
My zero range is 100 yards, I wil shoot out to 350 yards if I have to but the shooting side of things is easy. I prefer to use my skills as a stalker to get into shorter ranges, more satisfying and more fun.
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So, how do costs compare [allowing for all the time and equipment you'd need to buy] between buying a round and recycling a spent one?
I used to reload rounds as I was target shooting so only had to punch a hole in a piece of paper and you don't need full factory loads to do that. Reducing the propellant used also reduces wear and tear on the gun, with less recoil.
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Premium ammo has moved on a fair way if you lash the cash for sure. Nobody ever made anything if they never made mistakes. Norma, Lapua,, rws is great brass
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When I was shooting, Radway Green ammo was the best factory made competition round if you didn't re-load, is it still about?.
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Just started using RWS brass, so far it has been good. Very little if any trimming has been needed. Was happy with Federal brass but it’s all been confined to the scrap can, been reloaded 10 times so no complaints.
Using Federal bear claw in the 270, it’s accurate
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Never heard of it, never done competitive shooting so I maybe move in the wrong circles
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How do you find the hmr? Mate has one, only seen it action a couple of times. Can’t say it impresses me very much, I might be tainted by all the bad press hmr ammo gets.
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I have put about 5K rounds through my cz Hmr....a few with split necks but still fired ok.
Not had a single problem with it.
I think a lot of the problems have been split necks leading to iffy powder so the primer just fires the bullet an inch or so up the barrel. Instead of following the proper safety procedures the shooter loads another round and the invetable happens when they pull the trigger.
Not had a single problem with it.
I think a lot of the problems have been split necks leading to iffy powder so the primer just fires the bullet an inch or so up the barrel. Instead of following the proper safety procedures the shooter loads another round and the invetable happens when they pull the trigger.
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Got a bit further with this over the last two days.
The motor shaft fits inside the top roller shaft and held with a grub screw. It als has a torque arm to hold it in place.
The speed control is just hanging and needs fixing with the controls facing the front.
The flap at the front now has a position stop and return spring.
The timing cam is also fixed to the flap and is operated by a cap head screw threaded into the top pulley.
Cam
Testing it out.
It was a bit of luck to get the timming right and the casses seem to fall onto the roller ok.
I don't know if the o-rings will take the heat yet.
Turning the speed up and things still seem to go ok.
Now i need some Tempilaq or a tempilstik and rig up a smaller blow torch and maybe some heatshielding.
I also need some sort of chute so the annealed cases drop in to a tray a bit more gently.
The motor shaft fits inside the top roller shaft and held with a grub screw. It als has a torque arm to hold it in place.
The speed control is just hanging and needs fixing with the controls facing the front.
The flap at the front now has a position stop and return spring.
The timing cam is also fixed to the flap and is operated by a cap head screw threaded into the top pulley.
Cam
Testing it out.
It was a bit of luck to get the timming right and the casses seem to fall onto the roller ok.
I don't know if the o-rings will take the heat yet.
Turning the speed up and things still seem to go ok.
Now i need some Tempilaq or a tempilstik and rig up a smaller blow torch and maybe some heatshielding.
I also need some sort of chute so the annealed cases drop in to a tray a bit more gently.
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Rubbish, sold it maybe 6-7 yrs back Dutchy took it off the keepers here because of health and safety due to the amount of split cases.
It won't ever occupy a slot for me again.
The 22 hornet is a way better choice! Lots of fail to expand or over premature expansion .
Poor terminals
Edgar's still say its outselling 22lr but that's just new guys who think mistakenly they won't ricochet
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Yes it is but it's rubbish. Lapua make some great stuff but it costs ! I don't know a serious target shooter who doesn't hand load to the individual rifle
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Radway Green is still churning out lots of ammunition. My workshop is right next door to it
