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Was wondering about drilling them. What with?
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Was wondering about drilling them. What with?
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I reakon they will crack if u drill them.
I would just use sand and cement though squished in to.the mix less mix needed to point then too
I would just use sand and cement though squished in to.the mix less mix needed to point then too
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@angellonewolf mentioned resin. Now I know this stuff really does stick like the proverbial. It's what I used to stick the M5 studs in that hold the mesh on. I wonder if big blobs of this would better hold the actual flints? Would have be very organised and have a plan so it's not going off in the nozzle.
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Hmm...on the test flint the Sticks Like **** seemed to have fully dried after 24hrs. The (white) Ever Build Multi Stick was still a bit sticky underneath. On balance I'd say the Sticks Like **** was adhered better. Still managed to pull it off.
Try again!
Second panel flints in their sand box for reference.
I figured the flints being spotlessly clean might help. To think SWMBO moans I never load the dishwasher!
You know that calm before the storm feeling...
Try again!
Second panel flints in their sand box for reference.
I figured the flints being spotlessly clean might help. To think SWMBO moans I never load the dishwasher!
You know that calm before the storm feeling...
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you got any spare so you can test drilling them ?
id try as you would drilling a tile hammer off and use a masanry bit
or at least angle grind cuts in to the back so the resin has some thing to hold on to rather than just relying on suction to hold them
or a daft idea cement the stones in to cement on the flat then mount the slab in the space
id try as you would drilling a tile hammer off and use a masanry bit
or at least angle grind cuts in to the back so the resin has some thing to hold on to rather than just relying on suction to hold them
or a daft idea cement the stones in to cement on the flat then mount the slab in the space
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One of my first plans that. With some sort of hook arrangement in the back of the panel to go over brackets bolted to the recess.
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with the weight of the slab a lip at the bottem to stop it sliding out and somthing at the top would id have thought would be enough
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Can't risk it falling and splatting some little scrote trying to climb over.
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Looks like I got away with the dishwasher trick. Had it done, unloaded and restacked with dishes without her twigging.
They came out rather impressively hot and in fact held their heat for a long time...(future heat store project?)
The next, new, rough plan goes like this then:
I cut a board the size of the recess. Found another bit of mesh. I organised the flints how you'll see them face on like the reference photo. I then mirrored the photo. Copying that, or at least the outline, I've laid the flints face down on the board then tried to rearrange with reasonable gaps. The mesh gets laid on top and the mesh cut out where the high points are. Shouldn't matter if it doesn't sit quite flat. I'll clamp the mesh down onto the flints then blob Fischer or similar resin on each flint to hold it to the mesh... hopefully!
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They came out rather impressively hot and in fact held their heat for a long time...(future heat store project?)
The next, new, rough plan goes like this then:
I cut a board the size of the recess. Found another bit of mesh. I organised the flints how you'll see them face on like the reference photo. I then mirrored the photo. Copying that, or at least the outline, I've laid the flints face down on the board then tried to rearrange with reasonable gaps. The mesh gets laid on top and the mesh cut out where the high points are. Shouldn't matter if it doesn't sit quite flat. I'll clamp the mesh down onto the flints then blob Fischer or similar resin on each flint to hold it to the mesh... hopefully!
Mirrored layout:
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Something like this:
Then rope in No.2 daughter and let loose with the resin gun:
...whilst I watch Hidden Figures with a glass of Wainwright The Golden Beer!
Hopefully the resin will stick like the proverbial to the flints and mesh. I'll then be able to lift the whole thing into place like a mosaic tile mat and hang from some resin studs.
Then rope in No.2 daughter and let loose with the resin gun:
...whilst I watch Hidden Figures with a glass of Wainwright The Golden Beer!
Hopefully the resin will stick like the proverbial to the flints and mesh. I'll then be able to lift the whole thing into place like a mosaic tile mat and hang from some resin studs.
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OMG! Ran out of the "proper", needs a special applicator gun, Fischer resin and had to use a tube of DeWalt stuff that fits in a standard mastic gun (got it free).
It stinks to high heaven! No hiding I'm doing this in the kitchen.
It stinks to high heaven! No hiding I'm doing this in the kitchen.
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be carefull when you move it any movement in the wire will easy pull off the stones
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Well the hope is the opposite!
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Generally seems to have dried ok. If the resin sticks to the flints like it does my hands I'll be well happy.
The odd lighter coloured blob (though not all of them) is still wet, uncured DeWalt resin from the tail end of the tube, when it was just resin coming out with no hardener. Maybe as it was a bit out of date? I'll live with it as the tube was a freebie! Resin is horrible to use from a normal gun imho. Much prefer the Fischer, space shuttle esque resin tubes. My daughter couldn't squeeze the DeWalt stuff in the standard gun. With the Fischer gun it's a doddle.
The "towers" are a concern as in where the distance from mesh to flint is such I've had to build up the resin in height to bridge the gap.
Now to try and "hang" one without everything falling off!
Must get laddo to print up some pads for the clamps so they sit over the "+" of the mesh and don't slip off.
The odd lighter coloured blob (though not all of them) is still wet, uncured DeWalt resin from the tail end of the tube, when it was just resin coming out with no hardener. Maybe as it was a bit out of date? I'll live with it as the tube was a freebie! Resin is horrible to use from a normal gun imho. Much prefer the Fischer, space shuttle esque resin tubes. My daughter couldn't squeeze the DeWalt stuff in the standard gun. With the Fischer gun it's a doddle.
The "towers" are a concern as in where the distance from mesh to flint is such I've had to build up the resin in height to bridge the gap.
Now to try and "hang" one without everything falling off!
Must get laddo to print up some pads for the clamps so they sit over the "+" of the mesh and don't slip off.
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ha ha they would have all been done by now! never to fall out!
I’ve built several extensions and walls using flint . With the extensions we used pre made units .
They were fast concrete blocks 440x 215 to match standard bonding . The company wet casts into formers , whilst still wet they set the flints into the mix . Let cure then remove . We never had any fall out even after handling and cutting the blocks to suit . The mix was wet/ dense and the flints roundish .
The guy said he buys the flint of the local farmers who stone rake their fields . He is based in Dorset , not far from Dorchester .
After building , you then point the whole building in , so it unified it . Unless you built it , you wouldn’t know
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They were fast concrete blocks 440x 215 to match standard bonding . The company wet casts into formers , whilst still wet they set the flints into the mix . Let cure then remove . We never had any fall out even after handling and cutting the blocks to suit . The mix was wet/ dense and the flints roundish .
The guy said he buys the flint of the local farmers who stone rake their fields . He is based in Dorset , not far from Dorchester .
After building , you then point the whole building in , so it unified it . Unless you built it , you wouldn’t know
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Well...chucked in some M5 stainless studs with more of the crappy (but free) DeWalt resin. Ran a full nut down then another st/st washer.
Then hinged the board with the stones on into position and hooked the mesh over. None fell off!
I thought I'd worked out the studs so they would project in the gaps. Nope, got 3 out of the 6 wrong! Had to bend the other 3 to miss the flints. Once on then another penny washer and full nut. The fun is getting your finger in and winding the back nut further in to push the flints further back.
I don't think I'm happy with some of the spacings. Might mess around with the bottom left.
Then hinged the board with the stones on into position and hooked the mesh over. None fell off!
I thought I'd worked out the studs so they would project in the gaps. Nope, got 3 out of the 6 wrong! Had to bend the other 3 to miss the flints. Once on then another penny washer and full nut. The fun is getting your finger in and winding the back nut further in to push the flints further back.
I don't think I'm happy with some of the spacings. Might mess around with the bottom left.
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aint you pointed it yet! 
looking good so far
looking good so far
