home made bead breaker

[Kent]

Me too, I've got an eye test booked this Saturday!

you guys aint alone

 

[Monkey Harris]

getting fedup of paying for punctures and -having to pay for getting tires off trailers ect to paint knocked this no frills or no spills one up in a couple of nights. I didn't realy have any measurments for one so drilled extra holes in the parts so its adjustable was bang on 1s time and works a treat with no effort to break beads just shotblasted -a -mini wheel and primed for painting it cost 12 quid to make from scrap available-

nice work

i tried to get an old tyre of a wheel, it nearly killed me

 

[barracuda816]

you guys aint alone

Im glad its not just me. Every time i glance at it i see bread maker!

 

[brightspark]

I might make the tire bar for removing and fitting the tires back on. I'm not buying one there 80 quid. ive seen the design -so should-be easy to-make

 

[optima21]

I might make the tire bar for removing and fitting the tires back on. I'm not buying one there 80 quid. ive seen the design -so should-be easy to-make

yeah they're easy enough to make, here's mine and the static "bubble" balancer that I use in this thread (post 5)

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/fitting-and-balancing-your-own-tyres.58919/#post-721997

 

[brightspark]

heres the one il copy there only for doing steel wheels

http://www.redstoneuk.com/Manual_Tyre_Changing_Bar--product--761.html

 

[brightspark]

That's the type, 'normally' you'd whack a pole vertically, put the tyre bar under the edge of the tyre, then walk round in a circle pulling the tyre bar against the vertical fulcrum pole.

Doing it that way (and maybe with the assistance of a split hosepipe) it's fine to use on alu rims too.

yep il fit a-wheel mount to the top of the bead breaker ive -made

 

[colnerov]

Hi the change pedestal needs to be fixed down to work properly. bolting it to a pallet and with you standing on it will be a good compromise if you don't want a permanent fixture.

Colin

 

[Bill Edwards]

A bit of angle also does a fantastic job of totally ruining the beadlock on alu rims, and once it's been used a bit and mushroomed nicely the big hammer slides off the side easier - why wait for a kerb when you can just use a hammer?

A maintained pressure is better for getting the tyre bead over a beadlock - because a tyre is rubber it always wants to spring back so takes a lot more percussive force compared to persuasive force.

Tube type rims, such as a lot of 'agricultural' wheels, where the bead isn't locked into place but relies on plain friction and maybe a bit of corrosion are fine to hit, but tubeless? Nah, I'll use a lever thanks.

I'm sure it's possible to do damage with a piece of angle, but you would have to be an idiot. And a lot of agri tyres are tubeless, and most certainly do not get damaged - and bear in mind a single tyre can cost well over 1k, so it is fair to say we wouldn't use that method if it posed any risk.
As to alloy rims I just put my foot there so if I miss I hit my steel cap not the rim, though it's just a safety precaution which isn't really needed as they're easy to hit when laid flat on the ground.

I was actually changing a tyre on my tractor yesterday and tried the angle and a sledgehammer but couldn't get the bead to shift! I think it could have been my technique or I wasn't hitting it hard enough but I ended up making some wedges and driving them in between the rim and the bead, seemed to work pretty well but wouldn't want to try it if I was reusing tyres or on rims that mattered if they were marked!

Wrong technique. Done right a couple of good hits will shift even the most stubborn of tyres, even when it's the first time they've moved in 40 odd years and have plenty of rust keeping them in place.
Just grind a little angle on one edge of the angle to make it fit between the tyre and rim a little easier (it's not essential) and round the corners off slightly so it can't damage the tyre. I'll try to take a picture of one if I can remember.

 

[dannyp]

fortunatly for me i've got tyer machene that will do most trailer tyers to most 4wd tyers but is still use the other tools.

bits of angel my preferd sizes are 75x125 and 50 x 75 depending on what tyer is going to be comeing off. they'll shift things the proper big bead braker won't soemtimes even resort to useing the angel on HD 4wd tyers as the bead braker on the tyer machene has been known not to shift them from time to time. often the angel is easyer espectaly with big tyers as it saves moveing them.

tho if there is one about a telehandeler makes an excelent bead braker, dont even have to take the wheel off to get the tyer off that is a massive feature some times

 

[Bill Edwards]

I never, ever remove tractor wheels, it's always done in situ and with a piece of angle. I'll sometimes pull out the bead breaker for the inner bead if there's not enough room due to the linkage arms but it certainly isn't necessary - I managed for a long time with just the angle.

 

[Bill Edwards]

I think I said that I'll try to post a picture of my bead breaker. This is my longest lasting one ever, despite the shape changing a bit!
I wouldn't like to guess how many tyres this has removed (and yes, not a single tyre or rim damaged).

Sorry about the awful photo quality.

 

[dannyp]

looks like it's been hammerd into the perfect shape over meany moons, when that goes for a walk you'll be knacerd useing a new one

 

[brightspark]

scored a worn tire bar for nothing of a mate he had 2 a nice swop and gave him some tubes for his lights in shed in return. had to draw round the old end and make a new -one then heat up and curve the end round a half inch bolt even with oxy acet it took some bending .then I cut the worn part out with -1mm slitting disk in angle grinder and welded new bit in . as good as new now at no cost I scored a 1inch threaded rod with 2 nuts on from--autojumble for 2 quid to make the locking ring for holding the wheels on the bead breaker that jobs next

 

[graffian]

scored a worn tire bar for nothing of a mate he had 2 a nice swop and gave him some tubes for his lights in shed in return. had to draw round the old end and make a new -one then heat up and curve the end round a half inch bolt even with oxy acet it took some bending .then I cut the worn part out with -1mm slitting disk in angle grinder and welded new bit in . as good as new now at no cost I scored a 1inch threaded rod with 2 nuts on from--autojumble for 2 quid to make the locking ring for holding the wheels on the bead breaker that jobs next

I had a manual tyre changer on my race car trailer, not an original idea several other people had as well.
Getting a tyre off is no problem, putting one back was. We tried making a lever like that, had few goes and found it's
surprisingly easy to make something which slices tyre beads!

I went into a local tyre place, hoping to get a look at a proper lever if they had one. The girl who ran the place looked in
the tyre monkey supply comic, a new bar was a fiver. one of the lads working there said "pity you didn't ask a week ago, we had one but some wally broke it". I relieved them of the broken bits and welded the ball back on. it worked great.
when the trailer was parked in the yard I would guess at least once a day someone changed a set of tyres with it.

I made another about ten years ago and went though the whole making a lever and carving the shape with a grinder and
not being happy with it, I only needed to change eight land rover tyres and I didn't get the lever right.
I must keep copies of your pics of the lever.

 

[brightspark]

I was going to make a complete new one copied of this one of the internet but as u said its difficult to get it rite 1st time I did used to have one but sold it when I stopped racing looking round and no one seems to have one

 

[Member 66061]

Heres my bead breaker. Goes on the corner of my workbench. I use it for bike tires.

 

[Bill Edwards]

Fair enough for a decent amount, but sometimes people seem to put more effort into acquiring or making tyre changing equipment than it takes to use two ordinary levers and a rubber hammer!

 

[brightspark]

Fair enough for a decent amount, but sometimes people seem to put more effort into acquiring or making tyre changing equipment than it takes to use two ordinary levers and a rubber hammer!

wheres the fun in just buying something I could buy a tyre machine new for just working over 1 hour .what would be the point in having lathes drills welders milling machines if they don't get used . ive made-a lot of tools and gear if it takes my fancy-- if its some run of the mill gear I just buy it

 

[Bill Edwards]

I've got tyres on the disco that seem to have particularly soft sidewalls and the beads on the alu rims are, well, enthusuastic...

They defeated one tyre fitting place completely (gave up and said they couldn't do it) and a neighbour (who used to do agri fitting) tried with 'the good old lump of angle. After walking 15 feet to retrieve the bit of angle for the nth time after it bounced out, he gave up too.

I got the beads broken by using the machine in the fitting place I used to work, but they were the most awkward I've ever been presented with.

If anyone who reckons a bit of angle is foolproof and will never damage anything fancies a go, pm me and I'll let you have my address - I know which wheels I'd like as replacements when you fubar them

Seriously, if you're prepared to put your money where your mouth is, I'll let the air out and you can have at it, on or off the car (I'll even do the reseating if they're in a fit state to use afterwards, and supply a cup of tea.)

Well as I've yet to damage a tyre I really can't see why that would suddenly change.
But I'm certainly not driving to Wiltshire from Scarborough to prove anything, must be a 5-600 mile round trip!