Isocyanate free, questions

[richie00boy]

I ordered by phone. Maybe people are off on holiday so there is a delay in responding to emails.

 

[grumpy grandad]

Looks like a fair job there, I flat & polish mine after 2-3 days, It depends on if it was baked or not, with current temps it would be pretty hard the next day, other opinions will vary.

Thanks Langy. Yep, just drying naturally, just thought it would be easier starting to cut back with 1200 paper wet, while it's still a bit soft.
I must say that it is the first time using 2 pack and I won't ever use cellulose again. 2 pack it is a superior product, so I take this opportunity in thanking you for your useful and helpful advice and prompting me to take the plunge with it.
Thank you.

 

[grumpy grandad]

Thanks to all for you advice, I got there in the end.

 

[langy]

Thanks Langy. Yep, just drying naturally, just thought it would be easier starting to cut back with 1200 paper wet, while it's still a bit soft.
I must say that it is the first time using 2 pack and I won't ever use cellulose again. 2 pack it is a superior product, so I take this opportunity in thanking you for your useful and helpful advice and prompting me to take the plunge with it.
Thank you.

Depending on how much paint on there I would start with 1200, I start with 800, then 1500 then 2000
Wait till its hard, I wouldn't try and flat soft paint

 

[Flapdisk]

hey Richie mate, I have just been speaking to them at Refinish Systems on the phone and they tell me that this Epoxy Primer DOES contain isocyanate's and must be sprayed with an air fed mask

Your best bet would be to isolate the old paint with epoxy primer then you can use your cellulose over that. The epoxy will seal better than 2k primer and as a bonus does not contain isocyanates.

This epoxy primer is what I use.

http://www.refinishsystems.com/product/754-199/HBBody125LEpoxyPrimerKit

You will have to ask them to also sell you the epoxy thinners though as they haven't got round to listing it on the website. You would get away without the thinners though if you have a 1.8 tip gun.

 

[richie00boy]

Maybe they are just covering themselves and are not sure so better to err on the safe side.

I've checked all the MSDS and TDS for all the epoxy primers and associated hardeners that are commonly available and none of them contained isocyanates. That said, the specific MSDS for the 732 hardener is not on the HB Body website so I have emailed HB Body UK to confirm it does not contain isocyanates.

The tins of 989 and 732 that I have does not say anything on it about isocyanates either.

 

[Flapdisk]

Hi Richie, well I did say to him are you absolutely sure as some mates have said it is free, and he insisted it sn't, he lost a sale of 3 x 1.25 ltr kits because of it so I guess he must be certain. Email? you will be lucky, after sending three emails over six days I finally got a reply today asking me to phone!

 

[richie00boy]

I received an email this morning with the MSDS and can confirm there are no isocyanates listed. I will upload the PDF when I get home from work.

 

[langy]

Maybe they are just covering themselves and are not sure so better to err on the safe side.

I've checked all the MSDS and TDS for all the epoxy primers and associated hardeners that are commonly available and none of them contained isocyanates. That said, the specific MSDS for the 732 hardener is not on the HB Body website so I have emailed HB Body UK to confirm it does not contain isocyanates.

The tins of 989 and 732 that I have does not say anything on it about isocyanates either.

Richie the Iso is in the hardener not the primer

 

[richie00boy]

I know, 732 is the hardener for the 989 epoxy.

 

[richie00boy]

MSDS as promised.

http://www.readresearch.co.uk/personal/mig-welding/sd312_-_Body_732_Epoxy_Hardener_(GB).pdf

 

[Flapdisk]

Thanks Richie mate, anyone understand all the terms and abbreviations