LED 6ft tubes

[sparkysy]

This is the thing, the fittings were a well known make and were not cheap, over £120 each, 200watt LED. Replaced metal halide fittings that were about £85 each to buy, yes the MH are a lot less efficient than led and the output does drop as the lamps age. Before the phase out of the lamps the cost was about £35 if it failed.
The LED fittings have already started to fail after 1 year of service and no replacement parts or lamp so the whole fitting is scrap!
If they were out of warranty that would have cost another fitting, machine, and my time, over double the cost of a MH fitting and after 1 year not 10.

 

[Blobber]

This is the thing, the fittings were a well known make and were not cheap, over £120 each, 200watt LED. Replaced metal halide fittings that were about £85 each to buy, yes the MH are a lot less efficient than led and the output does drop as the lamps age. Before the phase out of the lamps the cost was about £35 if it failed.
The LED fittings have already started to fail after 1 year of service and no replacement parts or lamp so the whole fitting is scrap!
If they were out of warranty that would have cost another fitting, machine, and my time, over double the cost of a MH fitting and after 1 year not 10.

I do like a fluorescent fitting with an electronic ballast, light weight to fit and reliable, still using some that were pulled out of jobs 10 plus years ago

 

[jimbo84]

Greenwashing BS. I reckon we go through LED lamps here far quicker than CFLs.

Bring back good old incandescent ones!

Couldn’t agree more, where I am we’re pulling out 30+year old lighting that is still working, still on the original ballasts, only ever need tubes in them and putting in LED fittings that you’ll be lucky to get 5 years out of.

Not so bad on the LED retrofit tubes but on the one piece fittings/battens on failure instead of swapping out a lamp you have to swap out an entire fitting containing plastic, metal, cabling, how is that better for the planet.

 

[sparkysy]

I do like a fluorescent fitting with an electronic ballast, light weight to fit and reliable, still using some that were pulled out of jobs 10 plus years ago

Oh yes, I am still on some 6ft HF fluorescent fittings in my workshop that are 12 years old now, all they owe me is a few lamps!

 

[brightspark]

i quite often replace flouros with electronic ballasts that arent that old there krap .the old magnrtic ones are bombproof and rarely fail even after 50 years

 

[sparkysy]

i quite often replace flouros with electronic ballasts that arent that old there krap .the old magnrtic ones are bombproof and rarely fail even after 50 years

Funny you should say that, I took down a Fitzgerald fitting the other day that was from 1978. Still working and the manufacturer test date still intact and legible!
The gent there who was having a new kitchen remembered it being put in one Christmas after the old twin pair flex fitting went bang and blew the main fuse.

 

[Blobber]

A factory I used to do a bit of maintenence for the fluros were that old the original tubes had bayonet fittings on each end, you could get little adaptors to convert the modern 2 pin tubes to suit the bayonet fittings

 

[Laurie Tedcastle]

Hi, maybe search the forum before you order - I'm sure somebody said LED's were no more efficient than traditional tubes.
@fizzy ?

Does this help?

Questionable Florescent LED replacement Efficiency ?

A while back I replaced 32 six foot 70 watt fluorescent tubes in my main workshop with ' 24 watt LED replacement tubes' type LTT6224HDL from TLC Electrical at about £13 each inc vat. The light level was at least as good if not better but I wasn't convinced regarding the energy savings (I have an...

www.mig-welding.co.uk

Laurie

 

[brightspark]

A factory I used to do a bit of maintenence for the fluros were that old the original tubes had bayonet fittings on each end, you could get little adaptors to convert the modern 2 pin tubes to suit the bayonet fittings

did they have the big old 4 pin starter in them i used to fit them ,,,<<<<<old fart showing my age

 

[fizzy]

ive fitted stacks of metal halide and sodium fittings. they do last longer than led but led are cheaper to buy and are cheaper to run

I am not so sure. I replaced 5 of my old defective metal halide units with quality LED ones. 400w each. I put new 400w metal halide bulbs in the remaining 3 fittings. The lumens output is almost identical so the LED are no more efficient. Most people can't tell the difference. If anything the metal halide seem even better. The old fittings had lasted 50 years. We have been in the warehouse 10 years and never changed a bulb.
The ONLY advantage I can see is the instant on you get with LED. Metal halide don't like being turned on and off again. Warm up about 2 mins.
Of course if the LED fail it means hiring a scissor lift and hours of work moving my junk around!

 

[Onoff]

Of course if the LED fail it means hiring a scissor lift and hours of work moving my junk around!

As I said, job creation. The MEWP industry will thank you. Don't forget the IPAF training companies etc.

 

[winchman]

Bloke at Merebrow Autojumble who sells welding gear we got the last few from him under £10 each if I remember correctly, assuming he goes and has some?

Home

www.merebrowautojumble.co.uk

 

[grim_d]

I've been fitting the ansell tornado double units in the workshop, the latest units keep humming whereas the two units i bought last year do not. Not sure what they've changed

Mine all have a section that flickers, in the same spot...4 years old, it started last year.

Spark I had in recently said the tornados he fitted had a 100% failure rate, same issue. Whole livestock barns full of them had to be replaced and he won't touch them now.

Certainly hope they've sorted them out now.

The UFO style ones I've just put up in the main workshop are incredible. Have to wait and see if they last, they are BELL, so not cheap.

The best value seems to be the 600x600 ceiling tile ones, just need to get creative to mount them on a non-suspended ceiling.

 

[sparkysy]

Surface mount kits are available for the 600x600 panels, I used some about 2 years ago in a local village hall, not sure if they were BELL ones though, slept since then!

 

[Brad93]

Mine all have a section that flickers, in the same spot...4 years old, it started last year.

Spark I had in recently said the tornados he fitted had a 100% failure rate, same issue. Whole livestock barns full of them had to be replaced and he won't touch them now.

Certainly hope they've sorted them out now.

The UFO style ones I've just put up in the main workshop are incredible. Have to wait and see if they last, they are BELL, so not cheap.

The best value seems to be the 600x600 ceiling tile ones, just need to get creative to mount them on a non-suspended ceiling.

Have you a link? Are they the type that only work if you can get them high enough?

 

[brightspark]

Have you a link? Are they the type that only work if you can get them high enough?

the 600x600 pannels dont need to be high just standard ceiling height used in suspended ceilings in shops offices schools and hospitals .not much cop in workshops or factorys

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Think I got my led battens from Wickes...was a while ago so not sure on prices these days.

I went with led to improve light levels and colour.

 

[grim_d]

Have you a link? Are they the type that only work if you can get them high enough?

Bell | 08945 | Illumina Muto LED Switchable Highbay 100/150/200w | Superlec Direct

Bell 08945 Illumina Muto LED Switchable Highbay 100/150/200w

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Higher the better, mine are about 4m up. I have them set to 100w. Couldn't be happier.

6 of them over about 2000 ft², it's like daylight at night.

 

[Blobber]

did they have the big old 4 pin starter in them i used to fit them ,,,<<<<<old fart showing my age

Id forgotten about those! I might still have an odd one knocking about somewhere