Making an A-frame

[octo0072000]

http://towingaframe.co.uk/

Will sell you plans

again here we have retired but will sell you plans
not illegal to sell A frame plans or A frames but very grey area recovery only car being recovered must be taxed moted insured recovery off a motorway to the next available juntion unless you are a recognised recovery agent i.e rac aa greenflag etc etc

 

[moose]

Mmmmm I have read all the above and for what I have been told by a Traffic Cop, is as soon as you use a A frame the vehicle becomes a trailer, if over 750kg it must be braked on all wheels, just the same as a four wheel trailer if over 750kg All 4 wheels must brake. If it is classed as a trailer does not need T&T etc, below some people used this rule to get around the emmission law going to Enfield Pageant being that it is inside the M25 and rules state driving in nothing about being towed?

 

[octo0072000]

Mmmmm I have read all the above and for what I have been told by a Traffic Cop, is as soon as you use a A frame the vehicle becomes a trailer, if over 750kg it must be braked on all wheels, just the same as a four wheel trailer if over 750kg All 4 wheels must brake. If it is classed as a trailer does not need T&T etc, below some people used this rule to get around the emmission law going to Enfield Pageant being that it is inside the M25 and rules state driving in nothing about being towed?

i would be very careful on that there has been hundreds of posts on the 4x4 forums about towing off road 4x4s to play days in the end the rules say must be t&t and insured or all wheels off the road on a trailer

 

[teldoyle]

if anyone got plans for a A FRAME please could you share them

 

[bigrab2203]

ive just built one there are no plans easily available and i did it from my own ideas these are used daily by people with camper vans in the UK the law is a grey area i built mine to transport a corsa 60 miles i have put an album of pictures of mine but as i said its not from plans it cost me around £70 in total to build from scratch with new steel ect and a new light board and the steering lock has to be off which i found out to my pain as the corsa ended up across the road after the chain snapped so we put a new chain on and took advice and drove without the steering lock and to my amazement it worked hope this helps but i sometimes wish i had just spent £100 and bought one

 

[octo0072000]

A frame

ive just built one there are no plans easily available and i did it from my own ideas these are used daily by people with camper vans in the UK the law is a grey area i built mine to transport a corsa 60 miles i have put an album of pictures of mine but as i said its not from plans it cost me around £70 in total to build from scratch with new steel ect and a new light board and the steering lock has to be off which i found out to my pain as the corsa ended up across the road after the chain snapped so we put a new chain on and took advice and drove without the steering lock and to my amazement it worked hope this helps but i sometimes wish i had just spent £100 and bought one

you will find the camper van ones are braked and a permanent fitting on the car
see link
http://www.armitagetrailers.com/Aframes.htm

 

[teldoyle]

thanks guys,

i did make seperate thread only for it to be deleted...but no fear, what i was hoping to make was something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOWING-A-...9503?pt=UK_Recovery_Tools&hash=item231ff5101f

(sorry moderator is this is against site rules im new so im unsure of it, link posted in good faith as to allow members to see what im after constructing.)

this is more suitable to my needs as it will fit in my boot if anyone has plans for the above or simular it would be great, if not rigid type will do, but i must add the type with wheels on it are not of use due to storage, cant leave em out gypos will have em away just like they did an hoover left out after valeting my car(today).

 

[the snooper]

the palns for that exact frame are availabe to purchase for £7.99

see here

 

[teldoyle]

Mmmmm I have read all the above and for what I have been told by a Traffic Cop, is as soon as you use a A frame the vehicle becomes a trailer, if over 750kg it must be braked on all wheels, just the same as a four wheel trailer if over 750kg All 4 wheels must brake. If it is classed as a trailer does not need T&T etc, below some people used this rule to get around the emmission law going to Enfield Pageant being that it is inside the M25 and rules state driving in nothing about being towed?

mmm sounds about right, theres a former cheif super on the same course ill get the law clarified on that
thanks anyway

 

[Wozzaaah]

i did make seperate thread only for it to be deleted

No idea what gave you that impression, none of your posts have been deleted or moved.
The one you started has had several replies and is here.

 

[teldoyle]

yeah but i was tryin to save a few quid bein a student an all

 

[the snooper]

yeah but i was tryin to save a few quid bein a student an all

its 8 quid not a grand

 

[teldoyle]

yeah i know ill get one i think, but i must check on legal aspects first.

one member says over 750kg then all wheels must be braked..is it then legal to have person sat in towed vehicle thus making it braked on all wheels or am i peein in the wind with that one..anyone know.

 

[madkayaker]

It's illegal to carry a person in a trailer. The law does allow the towing of a car from a place of danger with a towing frame with no brakes, lights and a person stealing etc but that doesn't mean seeing a car on eBay with no tax and test and using a aframe to collect it. The ones behind a camper van are a fixed attachment and are being used on a road worthy vehicle. http://www.caratow.com/legal.php but this is by no means the definitive ruling!

 

[the snooper]

It's illegal to carry a person in a trailer. The law does allow the towing of a car from a place of danger with a towing frame with no brakes, lights and a person stealing etc but that doesn't mean seeing a car on eBay with no tax and test and using a aframe to collect it. The ones behind a camper van are a fixed attachment and are being used on a road worthy vehicle. http://www.caratow.com/legal.php but this is by no means the definitive ruling!

no wonder the punishment dont fit the crimes anymore

 

[Superbad]

Don't know whether to start another topic,but I 've just built a braked A-frame. Having experienced towing a Ford Sierra with a Ford Sierra using a non-braked A-frame is certainly an eye opener