Rock and Roll Bed Plans?

[octo0072000]

there is lots and lots of vans out there that advertise as 4 or 6 birth that cant transport the same number of people due to lack of safe approved seating.

there is also lots of vans like that quite frankly are dangerously overloaded. lad at work lives in a sprinter van 6 birth coach built job and its plated for 3500kg gross. empty weight is 2900kg and thats before 150L water, gas and the like (possible half tank of fuel?) and 6 people. if he had 6 mates in he would be over loaded!

that used to be the norm most of new vans was overloaded before you even set off but in the 90s a camper van was not classed as a commercial so no plated weights to worry about i used to have this argument about vans being over weight years ago, but told by dealers don't matter plated weights don't apply is a motorhome not a commercial.
Sprinters now can be plated at 4.25 tons now for that reason on motorhomes so as long as you took your test before 1997 you can drive it on a car licence up to 7.5 ton extra test nowadays

 

[madkayaker]

I noticed last time I walked around a motorhome dealer that just about everything is plated 3500kg due to restrictions in licensing etc. the fact there not commercial vehicles carn't see that making a difference as weights still apply?

 

[octo0072000]

I noticed last time I walked around a motorhome dealer that just about everything is plated 3500kg due to restrictions in licensing etc. the fact there not commercial vehicles carn't see that making a difference as weights still apply?

weights are applied nowadays by vosa motorhomes never used to get pulled in the 1990s because of it's not a commercial so plated weights don't apply bit because of the licensing laws on over 3.5tons now very few campers come within this law
again a friend after a divorce lives in a coachbuilt van nor for five years never been pulled by police for over weight been stopped for other things like sleeping over night in lay-bys etc he works in it so works from the van full sat-dish set up on van he's about depending on foods water etc 600kilos over plated weight only him and the dog lives in the van 4 berth

some of the sites I've seen over the years i used to be in and out of
Dover -Calais twice a week when running Europe
EastEnders wines place seen 2 blokes trying to put five pallets of beer into a transit Luton 60 cases to pallet 1 ton each pallet they filled the luton full then filled the back by the time i had been a swapped over trailers on the way back next day i called for a few more packs of beer as i had space on the trailer transit still there
blokes trying to sell off the beer cheap as it couldn't move wheels sat on body
but they was adamant because there was space i would go on it did

 

[pedrobedro]

So there is such a thing as too much beer

 

[jpmillermatic]

Our pop up trailer has a convertible dinette...the table becomes the center of the bed. There are cushions for where you sit, and a seat back. the seat back cushions fit perfectly where the table drops into place for the bed center. there is angle iron that acts as a shelf to hold the table level with the seat bottoms.

no hinges, very simple to set up and take down,ect....

JP

 

[auldtam]

Got it finished last Thursday but it's been non stop rain since so I managed to take some pic's today.

It's high enough to store my porta potti underneath and the seat can lift up to give access to the storage area. It's almost a flat back to save some more room in the van.

 

[octo0072000]

depends on your seat cushions your feet may be dangling in mid air
you may need a step to put your feet on
looks good

 

[auldtam]

depends on your seat cushions your feet may be dangling in mid air
you may need a step to put your feet on
looks good

Ive got 2" thick cushions and my feet are just about flat on the floor...

 

[octo0072000]

Ive got 2" thick cushions and my feet are just about flat on the floor...

you may want to double up on the cushions bit thin to sleep on 4inch is much better for sleeping on nothing worse than sleeping on a hard bed depends on how much alcohol us have consumed though

 

[auldtam]

Well after building the RnR bed we decided we prefer the 'L' Shaped seat/bed layout I done earlier this year...

As it was too big to keep in the shed I advertised it on Gumtree...6 responses within a few hours and sold it...

Happy Ending!

 

[BeeJay99]

...As it was too big to keep in the shed I advertised it on Gumtree...6 responses within a few hours and sold it...

Make anything on it? If so it sounds like you should be making at least 5 more.

 

[madkayaker]

Got it finished last Thursday but it's been non stop rain since so I managed to take some pic's today.

It's high enough to store my porta potti underneath and the seat can lift up to give access to the storage area. It's almost a flat back to save some more room in the van.

Like it looking for ideas for my new van to convert fiat scudo. Wanting to still be able to use as a van so hoping to make bed removable (thinking Uninstrut built into floor) purely for static use

 

[Tris1]

nice work. im looking to do one of these in the next few days. what thickness was the tube? have you got any ore pics>?

tristan

 

[octo0072000]

this post was 4 years ago dates at the top left of post

 

[auldtam]

I used 20mm x 2mm box for that bed. I now use 25mm and 20mm x 1.5mm erw box. Ive also changed the design as the 20mm erw slides nicely through the 25mm erw box. Basically, a base box made from 25mm, a small rear seat welded to the box and 'A' shape hinged from 20mm then the front seat base slightly forward of the box base welded to 20mm box with a 3mm spacer in between. The two 20mm box sections welded to the top frame slide through the 25mm base box frame. Ive finished building RnR beds at the moment and havent any pics to upload. I will be startinf again after the new year and I will post some picks

 

[Bert Sun]

Got it finished last Thursday but it's been non stop rain since so I managed to take some pic's today.

It's high enough to store my porta potti underneath and the seat can lift up to give access to the storage area. It's almost a flat back to save some more room in the van.

Hi Auldtam.

Do you have a design for the rock and roll metal bed frame I can copy?

I am planning on building an rv camper van using the toyota hiace van.

Thanks.

Albert

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Buy an Ikea LYCKSELE LÖVÅS and adapt that as necessary. I paid £25 for a mint condition secondhand item.