Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

[Altintas]

Ready

 

[paulo1974]

i thought that unimig was a rebranded aussie jasic. in hungary i can find this brand only gorilla. But i can find the real deal jasic.

 

[gruvan]

I going crazy at all the different variants of "the same welder".
For a minute I thought I found a super deal of the real version of jasic in the Czech Republic (Jasic TIG 200P AC / DC E201).
When I investigate the matter further, they do not have the same front panel as the British version of jasic. So apparently the EU variant of jasic is another variant, i.e. same as they have on their official china website.
So what is the difference between the more expensive variant in the UK and the cheaper one that can be found in the rest of Europe, Is it possibly the same machine as the sherman?

Also found on a Czech welding forum that pedal only works as a switch, however somewhat unclear when I did a translation in google.

 

[Madis Moppel]

Try to look from Poland or Baltics.
Here's one link from Latvia https://jobbi.lv/index.php?route=product/product&path=81_470_608_1203&product_id=7906. Along with transport to Sweden it should cost around 630 EUR (~6300 SEK).
Pedal is 70 EUR extra.

 

[chrisg3103]

Only difference i can see is the colour and the 3 lights at the side for electrode selection are not printed? Even if it did away with the electrode size warning lights your not missing anything

 

[gruvan]

Thank you for the info. However, I think I will buy the Jasics version in Czech Republic ie better resale value and about the same money.... if it turns out that I am a hopeless TIG-welder

Lousy information on jasic's website regarding manual. Nowhere to be found regarding how I connect the pedal or remote.
However, I find it in the British manual.

It would be less then optimal to buy the Czech varainate if it turns out that it is not possible to use the pedal fully, ie only as a switch

 

[gruvan]

It was this info I found on a Czech welding forum;

Attention! The seller's data on the web unfortunately fits ..... despite the fact that the UK manual has it written.

The Jasic TIG200 ACDC (version E201) that is sold in the Czech Republic (I have at home) is not the same version as they have in the UK (you can also see the difference on the front panel). Their version is different (probably newer), it also costs more and the original supports the JFC-05 pedal. If you connect this file to the Jasica they sell in the Czech Republic (version E201), it will work for you, but only as a switch (which is a bit expensive for the price), it does not take into account the potentiometer. I also disassembled the welder and everything is connected there so maybe they have a bug in the HW design (PCB) and it doesn't work, or they don't have it turned on in the SW, (or it's a marketing thing and they sell the model for a lower price) = it doesn't work anyway.
When you switch the welder to the "remote" mode (E201 can do it too), the pedal also works, unfortunately it does not regulate the current, it just makes an arc and starts it at the starting current (the first one to be set), unfortunately it is no longer possible to change the current higher with the pedal: - (
Personally, I don't have a problem with that and I use the pedal because I hold the burner mostly like a pen and the button on the burner then bothers. Like this with the pedal when I'm sitting I can have a thin burner without a button and I turn it on with the pedal. Of course you can remove the button and make a pedal on the ground, eg with a 220V switch (damage to the money for the pedal)

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I have E201 and I can confirm that the potentiometer does not work I tried it about a year ago, and it did not work, exactly as someone above wrote, in the connector it is connected to the board it leads but it does not respond to the potentiometer (I feel that it did something with the current , but somehow it jumped, or there was just a problem). At that time, I postponed it until I would look at it again when the time came and it hadn't happened yet.
As far as I know with the other big model, someone wrote that it is not possible to regulate AC frequencies.
Sometimes I cook something aluminum with it and it works well.

 

[choco]

New welder on their site looks very like the Sherman 206p

 

[Tangledfeet]

New welder on their site looks very like the Sherman 206p

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It looks nothing like the 206P - no more so than dozens of other generic TIG machines!

 

[paulo1974]

New welder on their site looks very like the Sherman 206p

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that´s is more like

DIGITIG 216P AC/DC​

Sherman DIGITIG AC/DC 216P

weldes.co.uk

 

[Stupoty]

I going crazy at all the different variants of "the same welder".
For a minute I thought I found a super deal of the real version of jasic in the Czech Republic (Jasic TIG 200P AC / DC E201).
When I investigate the matter further, they do not have the same front panel as the British version of jasic. So apparently the EU variant of jasic is another variant, i.e. same as they have on their official china website.
So what is the difference between the more expensive variant in the UK and the cheaper one that can be found in the rest of Europe, Is it possibly the same machine as the sherman?

Also found on a Czech welding forum that pedal only works as a switch, however somewhat unclear when I did a translation in google.

The sherman peddle(and welder) I have , you set the welder to "remote" and use the knob on the peddle to set the max amps not the front panel. Otherwise it's just on / off.

Stu

 

[choco]

It looks nothing like the 206P - no more so than dozens of other generic TIG machines!

Ohhhh how could I be so stupid it looks nothing like it lol

@ paulo1974 ya it's the same as that Sherman model.

It's all guessing until someone buys it and opens one up.

 

[Weld ON]

All brands like Sherman , Jasic , Stahlwerk and other brands are made in China like almost everythyng ... You have better and bad china , for profesioanl welder this all brand are just bad China something what is just looking like welding machine. If you want to use for home or sometimes for semi-profi job and you dont have to much money then go for it but you can buy Example Jesic ans Sherman is made in CHINA for Poland sell worldwide , Stahlwerk is made is china for Germany sale worldwide. Tecweld no way ..

Good welding machine start from 1500 eur , for sure if you looking for price then you will get just what you pay for .. If you have extra money then go for this ..

460150882 Esab Caddytig 2200I Ac/Dc TA33 240V Tig Package | Engweld

The Caddy™ is already a classic power source in the mobile welding equipment field. With Caddy™ Tig 2200i AC/DC you wi

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and im using this for now because is small and light ..

TIGER 180 AC / DC HIGH TIG Inverter

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[Altintas]

What type of gas connection is it?

 

[Altintas]

Ohhhh how could I be so stupid it looks nothing like it lol

@ paulo1974 ya it's the same as that Sherman model.

It's all guessing until someone buys it and opens one up.

Made in China by Flama Welding

 

[veesix]

What type of gas connection is it?

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On the Sherman 206P? M10x1.

 

[striker]

Has anyone managed to get a 206p recently either from abroad or the UK. I have one, my mate wants one but is worried about vat and duty if coming from abroad. Has anyone any recent experience. PM me if you want to keep it discreet!

 

[Caboose]

Has anyone managed to get a 206p recently either from abroad or the UK. I have one, my mate wants one but is worried about vat and duty if coming from abroad. Has anyone any recent experience. PM me if you want to keep it discreet!

Same here, been looking for a while

 

[Mininozzle]

I'm going through the process of grey importing right now. I asked the dealer to provide me a quote without local tax, because that's how it works now UK is not in EU. I then paid by paypal - separate to the website. One pays VAT & Customs when in arrives in UK instead. The local tax where I bought it is evidently 23%, so that's 3% more than here. Once the customs fee is added there won't be too much difference. I was supplied a tracking number today, so there is a package on the way.

 

[djtom]

If anyone is still looking at these Jasic clones, just thought I’d mention that I bought the cheapest lookalike that I could find (it’s the white Welder Fantasy one, haven’t got the model number to hand, but I paid £425 shipped with the pedal). Took the front panel off to have a look and it’s identical to the Jasic / Sherman inside. The foot pedal is good too - very robust and smooth to operate.
I’m delighted with it - now six months in and it’s been brilliant on ac and dc. It is better than I am!