Mine does the same. I fiddled with the pot on the pedal and got it up to the heady heights of 31 amps with it maxed out. Without the pedal the base amps display works normally. I tried using AC pulse with the pedal and pulse didn't drop down that low by the looks of it. I cant tell what it is putting out though. Does the display show the high and low amps while welding? Bit of a strange feature. No big deal I suppose as the heat soak isn't as bad with pulse so less need for the pedal.
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Mine does the same. I fiddled with the pot on the pedal and got it up to the heady heights of 31 amps with it maxed out. Without the pedal the base amps display works normally. I tried using AC pulse with the pedal and pulse didn't drop down that low by the looks of it. I cant tell what it is putting out though. Does the display show the high and low amps while welding? Bit of a strange feature. No big deal I suppose as the heat soak isn't as bad with pulse so less need for the pedal.
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Got mine today, plugged it in to have a look at the menu's but not had a play due to lack of gas and rods.
First impressions unit looks good and feel solid, going to try and fit it under my MIG but not sure it will fit in the trolley, may need to modify trolley or gas inlet. At the moment going to use a disposable bottle as I wont be using enough to justify another big cylinder.
What the hell is going on with the pedal cables? were they too tight to buy a multicore cable? May have to change that...
Torch, no flex head bit dissapointing, may get hold of a WP9 for most of the things I'm likely to do anyway, any recomendations?
I found the menu easy to navigate and work out even without English instructions but its not my first time using a TIG so I know what they do anyway, would be a bit fiddly and overwhelming if its your first time.
I'm happy with it, just need to try it, the only thing it doesnt have is the ability to save preset profiles, and the R Tech I was looking at could but at best part of £1k more its something I can live without.
First impressions unit looks good and feel solid, going to try and fit it under my MIG but not sure it will fit in the trolley, may need to modify trolley or gas inlet. At the moment going to use a disposable bottle as I wont be using enough to justify another big cylinder.
What the hell is going on with the pedal cables? were they too tight to buy a multicore cable? May have to change that...
Torch, no flex head bit dissapointing, may get hold of a WP9 for most of the things I'm likely to do anyway, any recomendations?
I found the menu easy to navigate and work out even without English instructions but its not my first time using a TIG so I know what they do anyway, would be a bit fiddly and overwhelming if its your first time.
I'm happy with it, just need to try it, the only thing it doesnt have is the ability to save preset profiles, and the R Tech I was looking at could but at best part of £1k more its something I can live without.
I’ve bought one of these - not a WP9 but it is much smaller than the torch supplied, and has a flexi head, plus it is cheap. Only snag is that the dinse needs changing for a 35/50, and you’ll have to rob the plug and hose connector off the supplied torch.
https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/welding...andard-tig-torch-with-4-0m-cable/p/ZT1000666X
Or you use an adapter from 9mm to 13mm
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As a few people are getting their welders through and people are talking about torches, pedals etc again, I thought it might be useful to post a link back to my earlier post:-
https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/sherman-tig-jasic-in-disguise.93719/page-10#post-1574275
Post includes details of the various connectors and sources to buy them (correct at the time). The dinse adapter kit is worth a couple of goes, as providing it's despatched correctly, you'll get an m10 swivel and a rectus 21 with each kit so is useful for adapting torches, even if you don't buy a 3/8 combined power/gas torch.
For those considering buying a pedal, they all seem to come as this 2 (pvc!!!) cable affair, which isn't great - it is bulky and it relies solely on heatshrink for cable strain relief at the plug end.
https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/sherman-tig-jasic-in-disguise.93719/page-10#post-1574275
Post includes details of the various connectors and sources to buy them (correct at the time). The dinse adapter kit is worth a couple of goes, as providing it's despatched correctly, you'll get an m10 swivel and a rectus 21 with each kit so is useful for adapting torches, even if you don't buy a 3/8 combined power/gas torch.
For those considering buying a pedal, they all seem to come as this 2 (pvc!!!) cable affair, which isn't great - it is bulky and it relies solely on heatshrink for cable strain relief at the plug end.
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For me no, I never use a pedal. If you think you will then it will probably be cheaper to buy one at the same time.
I really appreciate the links you’ve supplied David.
I’ve just about got everything needed to get started, apart from gas which I will pick up tomorrow and the 5 pin plugs which might get here via Amazon before the new year(!). And apart from one other thing, which is the intelligence to understand what I do with this thing pictured below:
Just to be clear, I have bought a new, smaller wp17 torch from Zoro which I’ve fitted with the correct size 35/50 dinse plug and an m10 hosetail for the gas (and it still needs a 5 pin plug for the switch), and I also have a Sherman foot pedal (I will replace the two cables with some heat-resistant 5 core).
I presume that when the foot pedal is used the 5 pin plug on the torch is just removed and replaced by the foot pedal plug.
Sorry chaps, I’m aware that I’m being really dim here! Replies with single syllables please.
(And in reply to @onlymeagain you probably won’t get a foot pedal if you order from Greyeagle.com, and you’ll only get one from weldes if it explicitly states it in the advert, otherwise it’s an extra £50 odd. I had to buy mine as an extra, took about 10 days to arrive.)
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Hi @Newlands
Yes, you're absolutely right, you don't need to worry about the torch switch/plug if you're using the pedal.
The pictured adapter is designed for connecting a 3/8 BSP combined gas/power torch to a separate power/gas welder (like ours). Some torches take gas and power through a single 3/8 connection (not that zoro one, unfortunately)
Edit - e.g. like this https://www.waspsupplies.com/ck17-r...ex-cable-150-amps-100-rated-38-bsp-6105-p.asp
It is useful to have for conversion, but was also useful for the bits it came with (the m10 swivel particularly). I used one swivel for a torch and one as part of an m10-rectus 21 adapter to enable quicker torch swaps
Yes, you're absolutely right, you don't need to worry about the torch switch/plug if you're using the pedal.
The pictured adapter is designed for connecting a 3/8 BSP combined gas/power torch to a separate power/gas welder (like ours). Some torches take gas and power through a single 3/8 connection (not that zoro one, unfortunately)
Edit - e.g. like this https://www.waspsupplies.com/ck17-r...ex-cable-150-amps-100-rated-38-bsp-6105-p.asp
It is useful to have for conversion, but was also useful for the bits it came with (the m10 swivel particularly). I used one swivel for a torch and one as part of an m10-rectus 21 adapter to enable quicker torch swaps
That makes sense now - I didn’t realise that there was such a thing as a combined gas/power torch! At this rate it will be a while before my practice welds are fit to post on here! As you say though, the fittings will come in useful in the future, and at £8.75 it’s hardly going to break the bank.
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Don't let that put you off. I'm still very much the same!
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised vs. MIG for the level of control you get though
Hi Ricie
Can you tell me the exact settings you used, as I'm really struggling with mine. Ta
Hi Neil,
I thought at the time I was using the pedal with that weld but I think it was just acting as a switch as I hadn't held it down for five seconds to activate the pedal mode. My other welder doesn't need this to activate the pedal. That might explain the trouble I had getting off the current at the end. I had to pump the pedal to get the arc to extinguish. It was my second go on this machine so I am allowed the odd mistake. My first attempt was even worse as the AC balance was all to one side side and I was left with a glowing ball for a tungsten.
Anyway, assuming I wasn't on the pedal mode:
AC balance 35%
AC Frequency 90hz
No pulse.
Preflow 0.1sec
Start amps 140, 2 seconds up slope (I use a higher start current to get a good arc strike and get a weld pool going quickly, that's my theory anyway)
Main amps 120
Downslope 2 secs
end current 5 amps
Post flow 7 seconds
This is on 3mm material.
Standard Collet
2.4mm Blue Lanthanated tungsten
Number 5 cup
Gas flow 7 Litres per minute
3.2mm Electrode. I think it was 5356.
Importantly the material was rubbed down with acetone. Same for the tig wire. There's usually a lot of muck on tig wires, even shiney clean looking ones. If you don't clean it off it will end up the weld pool. The material was a bit battered but it was clean. If you don't have acetone as least give everything a rub with a clean cloth.
I am not really qualified to give advice but the above worked well for me. Other people might use different settings, I might be doing something wrong, still learning.
Spend a few minutes getting properly comfortable, you might have to raise or lower your seat height. Rest your arms on something while welding if you can. Try a few dry runs with your arms to make sure you can move them easily across the weld.
I don't know if you're new to TIG welding but I have done a lot of practice hours to weld that badly. Arc length and torch angle are very important. It isn't all in the machine settings.
Cheers Rich
Yes, but it gave me the right path for what I was doing wrong. We are away now!
