Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

[Hood]

I think WP17's usually max out at about 100 amps or so on AC so probably not the best for AC unless it is very thin stuff you will be doing.

 

[scotto75]

I think WP17's usually max out at about 100 amps or so on AC so probably not the best for AC unless it is very thin stuff you will be doing.

Thanks Hood. Thought that was the case.

 

[Hood]

Just looked at the specs for the Kennedy WP17 and it is saying 120Amps for AC, Don't see a duty cycle stated so...

 

[Robert1998]

Okay, so have I missed the boat completely on the Stealth 206, or is there still some availability anywhere...feel free to point me in a direction ? So many pages to this thread?

I'm about to post a "Which entry level AC Tig for home?" post.

https://www.comercialdistrival.com/tienda/soldador-sherman-digitig-206p-ac-dc/

Yes, 140Amp stick is plenty for 3.2 rods and 6mm would not be an issue. The only thing would be the duty cycle and that would depend on what type of old transformer it is, if it is a wee SIP140 buzz box hen it would still do it but the duty cycle may be an issue and you may have to wait long periods for the welder to cool back down.

thank you very much. Yes, is an old buzz box. An Einhell 140 compact. How works the duty cycle in that machines? When is hot it stops automatically or I have to be carefull with that?

 

[Hood]

Yes, is an old buzz box. An Einhell 140 compact. How works the duty cycle in that machines? When is hot it stops automatically or I have to be carefull with that?

That just looks like the old SIP140 I started off with 40 years ago
They usually have a thermocouple in the transformer and will cut out when they get too hot and cut back in once they cool. You can usually get a bit more time out of them if you fit a fan in them or even just blow air in with a free standing fan.

 

[Popcorn]

Has anyone been using a WP17 torch for AC on the 206P. I want to swap out the torch and have a Kennedy flexi WP17 on my R-Tech. Spent a bit of money on CK bits for it, so a little reluctant to get a new WP26 and have to buy everything again, but have heard tales of WP17 torches getting hot when do a lot of AC.

To get started I’m going to change the fittings and connectors off the Sherman torch onto my 17, but is it inevitable I’ll want to go up a size for AC or have I got my wires crossed?
Thanks

The 26 and 17 torches use the same consumables as there both Series 3 Torches, so anything you've got for the 26 will fit a 17.

 

[Robert1998]

That just looks like the old SIP140 I started off with 40 years ago
They usually have a thermocouple in the transformer and will cut out when they get too hot and cut back in once they cool. You can usually get a bit more time out of them if you fit a fan in them or even just blow air in with a free standing fan.

Thank you!

 

[scotto75]

I’m trying to order a 5-pin plug for the torch, but looks like Weldes is not shipping to the U.K. Been looking on eBay but can’t find anything I’d guarantee would fit.

I have trawled through all the posts in this thread twice for info but can’t bring myself to do it again. Does anyone know where’s the best place to go to get one from? Cheers!

 

[Misterg]

I have trawled through all the posts in this thread twice for info but can’t bring myself to do it again. Does anyone know where’s the best place to go to get one from?

Link to plugs was here (Reverse XS12-5 Aviation Connector):

Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sherman-DIGITIG-206P-AC-DC-inverter-welder-200amp-TIG-DC-MMA-pedal-control/183887746185?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 This is the one i went with, through weldes.DE which seemed good, but i got stung by paypal on the exchange rate :mad: got to...

www.mig-welding.co.uk

Amazon link currently showing as unavailable.

I have a spare if you're stuck - PM me your address and I'll stick it in the post.

 

[scotto75]

Thanks Misterg. Have dm’d you.

Yes, the only XS12 on Amazon is unavailable. The only XS12 5-pin on eBay is not a reverse style. Weldes have them for a couple of quid but won’t accept PayPal or have the U.K. as an option when you setup an account.

I have noticed that the Parweld XTi 200 has a 5-pin plug too.

http://www.parweld.eu.com/wp-content/uploads/Cable_Plugs_and_Water_Connectors_Catalogue_Pages.pdf

It’s ERCP14 and Rapid sell the but for over £20 without VAT. Without testing if a XTi 200 torch fits into the Sherman, it’s a bit of a risky punt to just have to return it.

Can’t find a similar part for the Jasic 200 either.

 

[Popcorn]

R tech have them if there the same,

R-Tech 5-Pin Plug for Digital Machines up to 2014

R-Tech 5 Pin plug for DIGITAL machines, TIG torches, Plasma Torch and Foot pedals pre-2014, order on-line for next day delivery

www.r-techwelding.co.uk

 

[Newlands]

I’m trying to order a 5-pin plug for the torch, but looks like Weldes is not shipping to the U.K. Been looking on eBay but can’t find anything I’d guarantee would fit.

I have trawled through all the posts in this thread twice for info but can’t bring myself to do it again. Does anyone know where’s the best place to go to get one from? Cheers!

You could try here Amazon seller.
Mine came from a different amazon seller in a pack of five, but now show as currently unavailable.

 

[Tangledfeet]

R tech have them if there the same,

R-Tech 5-Pin Plug for Digital Machines up to 2014

R-Tech 5 Pin plug for DIGITAL machines, TIG torches, Plasma Torch and Foot pedals pre-2014, order on-line for next day delivery

www.r-techwelding.co.uk

Totally different, unfortunately - I used to have an R-Tech that used them.

I bought some a while ago but it seems I didn't buy the 'reverse' XS12 plugs and sockets.

 

[scotto75]

You could try here Amazon seller.
Mine came from a different amazon seller in a pack of five, but now show as currently unavailable.

Thanks for the link but unfortunately that’s not the ‘reverse’ type. The plug needs to be male and the socket female.

 

[decca]

Thanks for the link but unfortunately that’s not the ‘reverse’ type. The plug needs to be male and the socket female.

I had to order five , so have 4 left over. If your stuck I can send you one.

 

[Kram]

I have some spare aswell.

I dont have much gas left so I am thinking it would be good to try MMA. Is it any good for 2.5mm wall tube and 12mm plate?
What holder and electrodes would I need?

 

[Tangledfeet]

@Kram @decca I'd happily buy one of the correct XS12 fittings from either of you, please?

 

[Kram]

Sure pm me address I'll post it tomorrow.

 

[decca]

@Kram @decca I'd happily buy one of the correct XS12 fittings from either of you, please?

Kram beat me to it, pleased you are sorted.

 

[Glen Morgan]

Okay, so have I missed the boat completely on the Stealth 206, or is there still some availability anywhere...feel free to point me in a direction ? So many pages to this thread?

I'm about to post a "Which entry level AC Tig for home?" post.

Perhaps the writing on the packing tape round his welder might be a clue?!