Show us your bench vice(s)

Arc Tourist · Dec 23, 2020

What happened here ? ? ? My post #4359 reply was for another thread. :confused:

MattF · Dec 23, 2020

Mowgli86 said:
By way of introduction.... here's a recent acquisition. I'm slightly regretting smartening it up, as I actually prefer the look of the old patina. Just got a bit carried away getting the rust off...

Personally, I think it looks much better now.

angellonewolf · Dec 23, 2020

The_Yellow_Ardvark said:
This is made worse when a TV craftsman tells everyone how good this tool is. Or a tool or something gets mention a TV restoration show.
The price rockets.

Classic example. Repair shop restored a Mamod Steam Roadster.
Over night the price of them doubled.

I know a few places where good tools can be found. Don't I @Cobbler and @angellonewolf ?

keep schtum

The_Yellow_Ardvark · Dec 23, 2020

angellonewolf said:
keep schtum

Ok. I will.

If you ignore the TYA face mark in the dirt of your workshop window.

I was just looking at what I will acquire next. :whistle:

angellonewolf · Dec 23, 2020

The_Yellow_Ardvark said:
Ok. I will.

If you ignore the TYA face mark in the dirt of your workshop window.

I was just looking at what I will acquire next.

possably after large amounts of beer and lots of cash my way should not be a problem

or if im dead depending on what comes first

The_Yellow_Ardvark · Dec 23, 2020

angellonewolf said:
lots of cash

Or......

SteveB58 · Dec 23, 2020

Arc Tourist said:
Yeah, silly money indeed. I also have a #2 plane, which I had long before the word "Vintage" became a popular term for charity or thrift shop items. It would be a nice "real" tool for a kid interested in woodwork, but a block plane would work just as well for purpose with an adult.

Very true.

Don't see tools in charity shops around here, car boots are the main source. Seem to be 4 main types of seller:
1. pile it high and sell it for silly money,
2. polished up on the buffer wheel and charge a premium for it because it's shiny,
3. house clearance- these tend to be cheaper and
4. people selling their own stuff, prices depend upon two things here, how attached they are to items and if they've looked them up on eBay.

Steve

dannysheff · Dec 23, 2020

TYA - thought those were your collection of really nice sharpening stone boxes until I changed the scale -- I would say OMG, but it's not a phrase I use.

The_Yellow_Ardvark · Dec 23, 2020

dannysheff said:
TYA - thought those were your collection of really nice sharpening stone boxes until I changed the scale -- I would say OMG, but it's not a phrase I use.

Well all I was doing was offering @angellonewolf a good choice.

But I am sure he will reply shortly with a witty response, as he does I will again see what He has to offer.

Arc Tourist · Dec 23, 2020

SteveB58 said:
Very true.

Don't see tools in charity shops around here, car boots are the main source. Seem to be 4 main types of seller:
1. pile it high and sell it for silly money,
2. polished up on the buffer wheel and charge a premium for it because it's shiny,
3. house clearance- these tend to be cheaper and
4. people selling their own stuff, prices depend upon two things here, how attached they are to items and if they've looked them up on eBay.

Steve

I find there is a fifth type of seller.

5. the one that bumps the price up when they hear my accent. :laughing:

angellonewolf · Dec 23, 2020

The_Yellow_Ardvark said:
Well all I was doing was offering @angellonewolf a good choice.

But I am sure he will reply shortly with a witty response, as he does I will again see what He has to offer.

no worthy witty responce from me im not even slighty funny apart from looking :laughing:

dannysheff · Dec 23, 2020

Arc Tourist said:
I find there is a fifth type of seller.

5. the one that bumps the price up when they hear my accent.

- not surprising - a good Welsh accent is always worth an extra 20%

Vono · Dec 24, 2020

Here's another shot of my Parkinson No8.

slim_boy_fat on here suggested that I should take a vice & mug shot so here it is

All the best

Arc Tourist · Dec 25, 2020

dannysheff said:
- not surprising - a good Welsh accent is always worth an extra 20%

Not the accent I was talking about, but the original is slowly coming back ...…. Alrright munn ?

dannysheff · Dec 26, 2020

Herbert Ajax Fortis Coventry 1917

Looking at a Herbert catalogue I see Ajax, Fortis and Parkinsons vices all are listed as 'factored' ie not made in-house.

Things might have changed later, but this means that Herbert considered both the Fortis and the Ajax to be not their own product (I had always thought Ajax was their brand, even if the castings were made elsewhere). The Ajax (sizes 1-8) is listed as a 'steel casting' and the Fortis (1-6) has 'Iron' clearly cast in to the side, both are quick release of the Parkinson patented type.

So can you tell me what company(/ies?) made the Ajax and Fortis -- Coventry, I believe, or?

MattF · Dec 26, 2020

I believe there were two Herberts. Different companies.

dannysheff · Dec 26, 2020

This catalogue is for the very big Alfred Herbert ltd (from 1880s or earlier in Coventry - main product large machine tools) -- was there another W Mids Herbert?

There was a London company (1940s?) George(?) Herbert who made steel fabricated vices, including one like a welded version of the Swindens rotary, called 'The Herbert, Armoured'. No connection to the above or Coventry, I think.

Vono · Dec 26, 2020

dannysheff said:
Herbert Ajax Fortis Coventry 1917

Looking at a Herbert catalogue I see Ajax, Fortis and Parkinsons vices all are listed as 'factored' ie not made in-house.

Things might have changed later, but this means that Herbert considered both the Fortis and the Ajax to be not their own product (I had always thought Ajax was their brand, even if the castings were made elsewhere). The Ajax (sizes 1-8) is listed as a 'steel casting' and the Fortis (1-6) has 'Iron' clearly cast in to the side, both are quick release of the Parkinson patented type.

So can you tell me what company(/ies?) made the Ajax and Fortis -- Coventry, I believe, or?

That's very interesting, in all the images etc i've been pouring over looking at Vices, I don't recall seeing an Iron Fortis, i just assumed they were all steel.

The_Yellow_Ardvark · Dec 26, 2020

Showing my bench(old) and a new(old) vice.

Vono · Dec 26, 2020

CwazyWabbit said:
After seeing Dannys wonderful examples of Handy vices, I thought I'd add a picture I've shared before of the 4 different ages/designs of Perfect vises that I have.
Bottom I believe to be the oldest, top one still two part static but newer style slide, 2nd from top now single part static with jaw screws threaded into vise body, 3rd from top the last revision with jaw screws now threaded into the jaw faces.
View attachment 257110

Just been going back through this thread.

Cool image !

Is CwazyWabbit able to say what sizes these are, as i'm curious to know if they're all the same no'.

Cheers

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