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Bonkers!
Can I book my final trip in it now.
Chunko'.
Can I book my final trip in it now.
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Its surpising sometimes which vehicles are lead loaded. I worked for fords for many years & the MK3 cortina was lead loaded at the rear of the roof panel.There were health issues being argued about at the time,although safety gear was pretty good.I never did it but i watched on occasion & it's facinating to see an expert doing it. I've tried it at home with some success & its so much better than filler.(if the lead don't kill you)
Or it could be a bug. I have pretty much what you just described as well, 2:00pm on Saturday, had that conjested head feel, by evening it felt like I was swallowing barbed wire, copius quantities of brown (blood filled) mucus draining from the back of my sinuses. Sunday started on the Codral and Soothers/Difflam which helped, today (Monday) started to loose my voice and lungs starting to tighten, so off to the Docs and now on Rulide.
I think I got mine from my wife who came back ill after an interstate flight down South and back, or else from my brother who came up to visit from the same city (he was also ill.)
Could be just some bug going around. If it is the same bug that my missus and brother had then it might take a couple of weeks to get over it, it's nasty!
I think I got mine from my wife who came back ill after an interstate flight down South and back, or else from my brother who came up to visit from the same city (he was also ill.)
Could be just some bug going around. If it is the same bug that my missus and brother had then it might take a couple of weeks to get over it, it's nasty!
As my post was literally years ago and we seem to be 1000's of miles apart I think the two, my cold and yours that is, are not linked!
There is now no doubt in my mind that my sore throat was caused by Zinc and welding fumes. I now always wear a mask with 30 day disposable filters. The same ones I use for spraying cellulose, they appear to be suitable for this and I haven’t had another sore throat.
So a quick update on the project In general;
Welding
New front wheel arches, outers and inners, both sides (what a b4stard that was)
Front valance front corners, both sides
New bottom of wing by sills, hand made both sides.
Some floor panel patches (5)
Some boot panel patches (7)
Rear near side inner sill rebuilt and patched. + outer sill and floor.
Near side petrol tank support floor patched
And finaly the last bit I am just finishing;
Off side petrol tank support floor replaced.
This will see the welding completed. I will then spend several days using POR-15, seam sealer, and dintroll / Waxoil underseal. I have a compressor and a wax kit, so after it passes the MOT I will wax inject all the cavities. I won’t be wax injecting before the MOT just in case I have missed anything! (as welding near fresh injected wax = fire!)
Hearses
I have now scrapped the 1977 and it’s gone. I have 9 huge tea crates of spares including some 4 pot callipers as fitted to later cars I will fit to this early car. Not to mention rear cage, axle, front axle, etc,etc,etc….
Supercharger.
I now have a Ford EDIS-6 kit (distributor less running) and mega squirt (ECU) + a complete fuel injection (from XJ6), it’s all sitting on the bench, with the blower (Eaton M112), ready to fit after MOT.
Gearbox.
The crappy Hearse creeper box is still an unknown quantity, but the oil is a burnt red colour… there is no way I want to keep it, I suspect a Supra 6 speed manual from Australia may have to be the answer.
Getting there.
Again, I didn't check the original posting date, My bad!I just go and see what are the new posts and spotted this thread. So I thought it was current.
I'm glad you woke this thread its nice to update.
My welding (like my throat) is now so much better. I have recently welded my modern car to get it through the MOT and the tester was happy with my welds to the suspension pans...
On the bench i can get a almost perfect weld, under the car with sparks and hot bits burning me i get ok ish welds.
I think the one thing i have learned more than anything else is that the angle of the torch to the metal is absolutly crucial. There is a optimum angle (on my welder anyway) where you get nice welds, drop out of that and you get a splattery mess!
Cheers Jugs. Whilst i am new to welding i have been working on classic cars for a few years.
The petrol can is empty, like almost all classic Jags and Daimler's from the 60's and 70's this car has two petrol tanks (I have a 1967 S-type and a 1977 DS420 Hearse, as well as this 1970 DS420 Hearse). Its bad practice to mix the petrol from the tanks, as often one tank the petrol has gone off or has water ingress. I emptied the first tank in to another can, I then came to empty the second in to that one, but the tank was empty and the empty can got left there! But you are right, its bad practice to have even an empty petrol can anywhere near a source of ignition!
Car support, I'm not sure if it shows in the photos but the car is on 2 axle stands, there is also a jack (currently taking no weight) and finally the blocks as backup backup!
You know its so annoying, I can get text book flat nice penetrating welds on a bench. But under a 41 year old rotting hearse... Although saying that, this car is mint, these are really the only holes!
if your not botherd in takeing them out your better off haveing the fuel tanks full to the brim of fuel,rarther than being empty of liquid but full of vapours&air/oxygen,that will explode if ignited.instead of just burning.think about it.and watch out for were the tank/filler neck vent is!
as a welder working in the petrochem industry ive welded onto live fuel vessels&pipelines with no problems.but i dont recomend just anyone doing it uless you know what your doing!!
p.s before any wise cracks,i was not working on morning of the 11/12/08 at the buncefield site,but i would of loved to of been their when it went up!!lol
Sorry I just don’t agree. I will always continue to drain my tanks before welding. I think that, assuming the tank is sealed in both occasions id rather that there be less fuel for the explosion. Id rather the tank deform and split with a flash than explode in a molten fire ball with 40 litres of petrol.
Like you said you, are a pro industrial welder, working on million pound piping, I suspect the BP profit risk analysis says your life isn’t worth empting the line anyway... As the fine from HSE will be less than the profit lost from emptying the line.... -BP's record in this area is quite an interesting area in itself.
I am well aware that dropping a lit match in to petrol will often go out, but then shaking the same container and then dropping another match will cause a huge bang!
Its a bit irrelevant in this situation though, as i had to weld were the tanks sit, so i had to remove them to get in there. They are under the coffin slab and a sod to remove anyway so they had to be empty to remove because of the tight fit and weight!
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If BP coryton keeps welding fuel filled lines he will be on top of your coffin slab!
Sorry I just don’t agree. I will always continue to drain my tanks before welding. I think that, assuming the tank is sealed in both occasions id rather that there be less fuel for the explosion. Id rather the tank deform and split with a flash than explode in a molten fire ball with 40 litres of petrol.
Like you said you, are a pro industrial welder, working on million pound piping, I suspect the BP profit risk analysis says your life isn’t worth empting the line anyway... As the fine from HSE will be less than the profit lost from emptying the line.... -BP's record in this area is quite an interesting area in itself.
I am well aware that dropping a lit match in to petrol will often go out, but then shaking the same container and then dropping another match will cause a huge bang!
Its a bit irrelevant in this situation though, as i had to weld were the tanks sit, so i had to remove them to get in there. They are under the coffin slab and a sod to remove anyway so they had to be empty to remove because of the tight fit and weight!
i can see were your comeing from,but the tank will explode if its empty as their are vapours&air preasant in it,if its full the fuel will only burn,i know a few 'home car welding' cases that have gone badly wrong,when i used to do car welding favours on a sunday to save time takeing tanks out when haveing to weld 'next' to the tank i all ways told owner to brim them,but thay put their faith in me never any problems.
'always have a (in date&tested) fire extinguisher to hand¬ need it,then not to have one&need it'.ive had so much drumed into me over the years that what may alarm most people is all in a days work for me.just rember a flame needs 3 things to burn,you only need to take one iterm out to stop it or fail to make it start in the first place.
any how i myself have a soft spot for the DS420 shame thay dont make them any more such a lovely looking motor with class,unlike all the modden box carrying cars,and i will stick me neck out here and say i also love seeing them out on the banger tracks in the heart braker meetings being given their final run before the crusher,seen so many end up like this thats why thay are getting thin on the ground,sad i know but its beter than just going straight into a scrap yard without one final blast,if i had the room&spare money i would have one for a sunday runner about for a while.keep up the work with yours,be nice to see it when its finished,compleat with a box in the back?i know were a mk1 granny hearse is sitting as it was to good to race at the time,have to see if it needs a new owner!
This will make you laugh. I know this seems convenient and proves my point, but honestly it’s true.
So, by last night I had finished all of the body welding. I then moved on to treating the surface rust on the petrol tanks. I always thought it was odd that one was bone dry when I got the car, I had initially put it down to a knackered fuel pump that side….
Well, turns out that the left tank had been welded (not by me obviously) at the bottom and was clearly weeping, which is why it had no petrol in it. I just touched it with the grinder wire brush and it just turned in to a huge hole….
The other tank had the same issue ½ way up the side. This means that if I had of ever filled it out it will have dribbled petrol everywhere!
I am glad I drained!
Anyway, yes banger racing, I agree that banger racing is a good step before the scrapper. But it’s almost accepted that there are criminals in the scene. I know some guys who banger race and they were going to take my scrap hearse, but they decided they didn’t want it after I needed too many bits off it. This hearse I currently have was saved from the banger track by its aluminium body!
I live literally 600 yards from a banger track and the people who run it are really nice honest law abiding people.
PS, if you want to look at the hearse welding and progress;
search facebook for "Grim Creeper supercharged Daimler hearse" or similar words...
or
www.shootingjags.co.uk
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the petrol its self doesnt ignite as such its the fumes.
i know only to well as i was welding a bike tank, i cleaned it out well the first time then it came back months later holed elsewhere, this time i rushed the cleaning arced the mig and bang went the tank 
so dont be fooled that the fluid is more flamable then the vapour because it isnt, if you dont believe us ask the firebrigade
i know only to well as i was welding a bike tank, i cleaned it out well the first time then it came back months later holed elsewhere, this time i rushed the cleaning
arced the mig and bang went the tank so dont be fooled that the fluid is more flamable then the vapour because it isnt, if you dont believe us ask the firebrigade
