Today I acquired...........

[Dr.Al]

A lot of mills with r8 collet spindles, don't have a pin to stop the collet spinning, mine included. Just push the collet hard into the spindle with your left hand and tighten the drawbar with your right hand.

I'll try it again (although I don't have a 20 mm collet, so it won't immediately help). When I tried it last time (which admittedly was a lot of years ago) I remember finding it very hard either to tighten or loosen the collet (I can't remember which), but it might be I just need to learn the technique.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

A bag of delight and joy.



Well I was on a hunt for a member here, so a small detour. Staying on the A30, instead of the A303.

So I hear some saying:
"What's in the bag Mr TYA?"

@Parm. You will have to wait.



A few assorted items.

@bigegg. Your part will be in the post in a day or 2.



A decent bit of English oak.
The plan is to turn it into a handle for this.



A old saw set. To dirty to see if there is any makers details.




Bench top mounted Wood Workers Vice.





Unloved, but poorly restored Stanley 110 Block plane.





A odd vice as well as..................




A unicorn.

 

[ronan]

Went to Lidl this morning for groceries, but it would be rude not to buy some tools and bits and bobs too wouldn't it ? They had these clamp meters and ordinary multimeters. Took a gamble on the clamp type. 15 quid, cannot go too far wrong.

 

[bigegg]

Went to Lidl this morning for groceries, but it would be rude not to buy some tools and bits and bobs too wouldn't it ? They had these clamp meters and ordinary multimeters. Took a gamble on the clamp type. 15 quid, cannot go too far wrong.


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what range does it have?
guessing no good for earth leakages?
<5mA ish?

 

[brightspark]

what range does it have?
guessing no good for earth leakages?
<5mA ish?

6 amp minimum

 

[bigegg]

6 amp minimum

i didnt think so for 15 quid.

 

[brightspark]

I have one of these along with 2 larger fluke ones. maybe a bit heavy in price depending on what you want to spend https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Produc...MI0MS80uek6AIVVoXVCh33ggyaEAQYAiABEgK54PD_BwE I got it to measure milliamps earth leakage for nuisance rcd tripping

 

[bigegg]

I have one of these along with 2 larger fluke ones. maybe a bit heavy in price depending on what you want to spend https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Produc...MI0MS80uek6AIVVoXVCh33ggyaEAQYAiABEgK54PD_BwE I got it to measure milliamps earth leakage for nuisance rcd tripping

added to my shopping list.

 

[brightspark]

added to my shopping list.

I think test for less or pass test meters will be cheaper

 

[bigegg]

I think test for less or pass test meters will be cheaper

i just add an auto search on ebay, plus i have a list of regular searches i do on gumtree, shpock, and fb marketplace.

 

[Matchless]

got this bench drill, free, all works although surface rusty, the table drill dags have been brazed up, I may keep this one and get rid of the others, except the AEG with 20mm chuck! this one looks a nice size, we shall see!

 

[Kram]

@Dr.Al I have no use for these, if you want them. I intended to make a holder but never will.

Is it difficult to fix the spindle pin?

 

[cianh91]

In lidl the other day picked these up kinda sorry I didn get the stud detector while I was there . I know it’s not a high end all bells and whistles meter but for what I need it for it’s probably too many features

 

[Johnnybravo]

Big empty spaces on the workbenches. A broken side door and a broken garage door. Really boils my ****. Self employed ,all power tools bought new last December to put up a mezzanine floor in my unit. Have been skimping and saving for the material. Bought all the steel ,fixings etc for delivery this and next week. Was planning on doing the mezzanine over the next couple of weeks. Now don’t have the tools to do it...Bloody thieving scum

 

[Woody.v8]

Big empty spaces on the workbenches. A broken side door and a broken garage door. Really boils my ****. Self employed ,all power tools bought new last December to put up a mezzanine floor in my unit. Have been skimping and saving for the material. Bought all the steel ,fixings etc for delivery this and next week. Was planning on doing the mezzanine over the next couple of weeks. Now don’t have the tools to do it...Bloody thieving scum

Sorry to hear this Johnny ,What horrible low lifes to do such a thing especially with what's going on just now, We had supposed to be pulling together not ripping one another off

 

[Dr.Al]

A lot of mills with r8 collet spindles, don't have a pin to stop the collet spinning, mine included. Just push the collet hard into the spindle with your left hand and tighten the drawbar with your right hand.

I had another go last night and struggled again, but I think I understand why now. It was really difficult to push it hard enough while getting the drawbar into the thread. The collets had come with the machine when I originally bought it and I haven't used them at all really as a result of this issue. I took the collet back out and ran a 7/16"-20 UNF tap into the drawbar thread in the back of the collet. I then had another go and that made it much, much easier to get the drawbar most of the way in and then I could push up on the collet and tighten the drawbar. Hooray! I guess most of my problems with the collets have been down to carp threads in the arceurotrade collets. Thankfully they were soft enough (or maybe the tap was taking a surface coating off) to fix the problem.

@Dr.Al I have no use for these, if you want them. I intended to make a holder but never will.

That's jolly decent of you @Kram, thanks! Will send a PM.

Is it difficult to fix the spindle pin?

Sadly, yes. It would seem like a big improvement to get it sorted, but it's a tiny little pin (not a key) that goes into a hole in the spindle. When it fails (which, according to the guy I spoke to at arceurotrade, is almost inevitable) it drops down into the gap inside the spindle assembly and thankfully then lies in a little pocket that doesn't do any damage or cause any problems apart from the loss of the pin. Fixing it involves dismantling the spindle assembly, which arceurotrade describe as a very difficult job involving specialist tooling, so I decided I didn't want to go there! I did look at making a top-hat shape pin (that couldn't fall into the spindle) and gluing it in place, but in the end I concluded it was too hard to reliably get it into the hole in the spindle without risking doing some other damage so I gave up and have lived with it. For any tooling that sticks out of the spindle enough that you can hold it with your hand, it's not a problem at all - I'd only struggled with the collets, but hopefully the fix with the tap (described above) will make that better.

 

[123hotchef]

A nice drill from Pressbrake thanks. Been 're wired just waiting on a chuck.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Just been given to me.

Sharp and set, just rusty.

 

[dan.taylor.1]

I had another go last night and struggled again, but I think I understand why now. It was really difficult to push it hard enough while getting the drawbar into the thread. The collets had come with the machine when I originally bought it and I haven't used them at all really as a result of this issue. I took the collet back out and ran a 7/16"-20 UNF tap into the drawbar thread in the back of the collet. I then had another go and that made it much, much easier to get the drawbar most of the way in and then I could push up on the collet and tighten the drawbar. Hooray! I guess most of my problems with the collets have been down to carp threads in the arceurotrade collets. Thankfully they were soft enough (or maybe the tap was taking a surface coating off) to fix the problem.



That's jolly decent of you @Kram, thanks! Will send a PM.



Sadly, yes. It would seem like a big improvement to get it sorted, but it's a tiny little pin (not a key) that goes into a hole in the spindle. When it fails (which, according to the guy I spoke to at arceurotrade, is almost inevitable) it drops down into the gap inside the spindle assembly and thankfully then lies in a little pocket that doesn't do any damage or cause any problems apart from the loss of the pin. Fixing it involves dismantling the spindle assembly, which arceurotrade describe as a very difficult job involving specialist tooling, so I decided I didn't want to go there! I did look at making a top-hat shape pin (that couldn't fall into the spindle) and gluing it in place, but in the end I concluded it was too hard to reliably get it into the hole in the spindle without risking doing some other damage so I gave up and have lived with it. For any tooling that sticks out of the spindle enough that you can hold it with your hand, it's not a problem at all - I'd only struggled with the collets, but hopefully the fix with the tap (described above) will make that better.

You should be able to thread the drawbar in with the collet loosely held then push it up hard and nip the drawbar up

 

[Dr.Al]

You should be able to thread the drawbar in with the collet loosely held then push it up hard and nip the drawbar up

Yes: I can do that now I've re-tapped the thread in the back of the collet.