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Have you had a go? Just wondering if an airline pilot would say the same about a flight sim
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Its more than likely base camp for lads that have never had a torch in there hands...get the feel of positions then go and light one up and run a bead.
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There’s only one way to learn and it ain’t that way, always thought stick should be thought first to not mig.
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Jim Davey
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As an intro into welding they are fine, and a cost effective, safe way of getting multiple candidates started on the pathway. Insurance for hot work, fume extraction, servicing, consumables, test coupons, safety testing of electrical and gas manifold systems is expensive, especially in a big school with many bays.
All that for beginners to snot up material at a rate of knots is wasteful.
If people get the general idea in theory, before progressing into the real thing it can cut down on the amount of space, materials and overhead required to train up new lads/lasses.
All that for beginners to snot up material at a rate of knots is wasteful.
If people get the general idea in theory, before progressing into the real thing it can cut down on the amount of space, materials and overhead required to train up new lads/lasses.
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I find with apprentices/new weldors, the first thing they need to know is how it SHOULD look. Second thing they need to know is how it SHOULDN'T look, and why it looks like that.
Nothing worse than seeing a whole load of splatters on good material and someone thinking that it's ok.
If these tools help avoid even 25% of practice material waste it's probably a good thing. Material isn't cheap these days, especially when you get up to 12mm and 20mm test pieces.
Nothing worse than seeing a whole load of splatters on good material and someone thinking that it's ok.
If these tools help avoid even 25% of practice material waste it's probably a good thing. Material isn't cheap these days, especially when you get up to 12mm and 20mm test pieces.
think it would make a great tool for a sort of careers advice, have a try to see if its of interest, rather than wasting material, hours of training time etc.
Personally, there's no substiture for learning with the real thing, but might give more insight to those who maybe hadn't thought of welding / fabrication as a career. Especially for the younger video game generation would be just another game to them. However if it attracts more to the industry then I can see the benefit.
That said as a longer term training tool, I'd see it's limitations pretty quickly. No smoke, heat or interaction, not really realistic, so what's the point... might give you some pointers but any half decent instructor would be able to do the same thing..
Personally, there's no substiture for learning with the real thing, but might give more insight to those who maybe hadn't thought of welding / fabrication as a career. Especially for the younger video game generation would be just another game to them. However if it attracts more to the industry then I can see the benefit.
That said as a longer term training tool, I'd see it's limitations pretty quickly. No smoke, heat or interaction, not really realistic, so what's the point... might give you some pointers but any half decent instructor would be able to do the same thing..
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It’s not designed to replace the real thing, simply to speed up the learning process while reducing overhead/risk.
At a certain point candidates transition from virtual training to physical training but the ones with no aptitude/interest can be weeded out more economically.
It also doesn’t put off the more timid candidates in the early stages by throwing them into a male dominated, noisy, environment but a started them off in a quiet, clean and well lit classroom. It’s got some drawbacks for sure, and the original systems left a lot to be desired but the new systems from the likes of Soldamatic are finding homes in some big firms who aren’t happy with the quality of the candidates arriving from external training schemes and have implemented their own.
It always ends with candidates using real welding machines on real workpieces at some stage before they qualify.
At a certain point candidates transition from virtual training to physical training but the ones with no aptitude/interest can be weeded out more economically.
It also doesn’t put off the more timid candidates in the early stages by throwing them into a male dominated, noisy, environment but a started them off in a quiet, clean and well lit classroom. It’s got some drawbacks for sure, and the original systems left a lot to be desired but the new systems from the likes of Soldamatic are finding homes in some big firms who aren’t happy with the quality of the candidates arriving from external training schemes and have implemented their own.
It always ends with candidates using real welding machines on real workpieces at some stage before they qualify.
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Does the chap in the first picture get a certificate at the end of the course or a presentation mug ?
