Vertical Up

[burita661]

You paying him?

yeah i payed for the class. i wasnt getting any advice from him, so thats why i joined this forum to get advice from advance welders as well

 

[burita661]

Well your learning to weld and show some good efforts on the v up so he's doing ok at teaching you. Perhaps nowadays the grinding thing is a real thing whatever it may be.

thanks man i appreciate it alot

 

[Kent]

yeah i payed for the class. i wasnt getting any advice from him, so thats why i joined this forum to get advice from advance welders as well

Was thinking of questioning that contract myself, the world is unfortunately full of people who will take our money. You know there is a lot a good instructor can achieve in quite a short time window but it does seem this is a jump too far ahead without close 1 on 1

 

[Bill Edwards]

Yes, I would be having a word with your teacher - i.e, I'd be asking them to actually teach you!

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'm not the only one on here who's happy to give you pointers still, but someone who can demo what to do, let you practice, watch you weld and look at the piece properly afterwards should teach you more in two hours than all the forum posts we will make in a month.


As ever, people have their ways but for vertical up I was taught to do a root run. Dead straight movement, no torch manipulations/patterns whatsoever.
Then followed by a weaved run, just side to side but pausing at the side for what seems like a long time, then just whip across to the other side without lingering in the middle of the root run. No U's or J's or anything, and several years later I think I can safely say that it does work.

The key is to pause for long enough, move up very gradually - it's slow, you mustn't take big steps - and maintain the correct torch angle throughout.
Torch angle was something I (unknowingly) struggled with; I'd run a nice weave, but about half way up the shape of it altered.
The instructor took one look and said 'I think you're changing the torch angle, alter your position and keep it consistent'. Bingo, and that's the kind of thing an instructor should be able to do.

 

[burita661]

Yes, I would be having a word with your teacher - i.e, I'd be asking them to actually teach you!

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'm not the only one on here who's happy to give you pointers still, but someone who can demo what to do, let you practice, watch you weld and look at the piece properly afterwards should teach you more in two hours than all the forum posts we will make in a month.


As ever, people have their ways but for vertical up I was taught to do a root run. Dead straight movement, no torch manipulations/patterns whatsoever.
Then followed by a weaved run, just side to side but pausing at the side for what seems like a long time, then just whip across to the other side without lingering in the middle of the root run. No U's or J's or anything, and several years later I think I can safely say that it does work.

The key is to pause for long enough, move up very gradually - it's slow, you mustn't take big steps - and maintain the correct torch angle throughout.
Torch angle was something I (unknowingly) struggled with; I'd run a nice weave, but about half way up the shape of it altered.
The instructor took one look and said 'I think you're changing the torch angle, alter your position and keep it consistent'. Bingo, and that's the kind of thing an instructor should be able to do.

I appreciate the feedback guys!! thanks alot for everything

 

[Jim Davey]

The whip and pause technique described above works well for most flux cored wires too.