Why cant adults with a pacemaker weld?

[123hotchef]

dont forget the pictures ,,,

ok its on the todo list for this week I have a 4" tube sitting here actually

 

[Rrunnach]

My interpretation is TIG welding with an HF unit installed, as the HF is the hazardous part when arcing up, and of course, continuous on AC.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

I got to try this now you know that dont you! there is a pylon in our horse field

Google "Field of Light"

 

[Lewis_RX8]

I have got a "light-weight" xray gown and there is no way I would want to wear it for any longer than half an hour or so...
Ok, if it was vital to keep my pacemaker working then possibly I might man up a bit but the thing is so heavy on the shoulders that I don't think I would be able to mig properly, let alone tig, for any length of time with that on.

I would think one issue might be if you had one hand on the bench and managed to touch the other on a live electrode/torch tip and got some sort of current flowing accros the chest via the pacemaker?
At the least, an extra return lead bolted to the bench might be a good idea?

I think some of the reason it's potentially dangerous is some pacemakers assist the heart so they monitor the heartbeat and provide assistance if there is a problem. Certain types of pulse from welders (and other things) can make the pacemaker think the heart is beating normally and then switch themselves off.

If I had one fitted I would be either talking to my doctor, the makers of the pacemaker or, one of the bigger welding equipment manufacturers for some proper advice!
Probably worth emailing all 3 of them!

Home made chernobyl style one maybe use some old roof flashing

Tell her that since you bought the stuff it's now all gone up in price and just how wise you were to buy the kit at the right time.

An investment I say

 

[premmington]

I understood it is only big wound coil transformers and HF tig ignition which is the problem with packemakers...?

You are not meant to go near big electric motors either with a packmaker - is that correct...?

 

[mike os]

EMF effects is the issue, would need a faraday suit not just a sheet of lead

No idea on the real risk… best ask the maker or cardio specialist, but as they advise not I guess you already know the answer.

Go for it is my advice, if you die please ask your next of kin to keep us updated

 

[premmington]

EMF effects is the issue, would need a faraday suit not just a sheet of lead

No idea on the real risk… best ask the maker or cardio specialist, but as they advise not I guess you already know the answer.

Go for it is my advice, if you die please ask your next of kin to keep us updated

+1 for the above

 

[Lewis_RX8]

EMF effects is the issue, would need a faraday suit not just a sheet of lead

Bugger chernobyl suits out then

 

[Bornfree]

My interpretation is TIG welding with an HF unit installed, as the HF is the hazardous part when arcing up, and of course, continuous on AC.

If you forget to put the earth clamp on and have damp gloves it seems hazardous.

 

[mike os]

Bugger chernobyl suits out then

Old ones will be fine, basement or hospital… you won’t have to worry about your pacemaker for long

 

[DAPPH]

Google "Field of Light"

https://www.larkinweb.co.uk/miscellany/fluorescent_tubes_under_power_lines.html this one is a fair result

 

[Onoff]

Given the title does that mean children with a pacemaker can weld?

 

[frank horton]

I have a defib pacemaker ( fitted 2 years ago) and still weld MMA....the mig is still packed....
done loads upto 160-180 amps and still here....
I did ask the consultant at the time and he said whats welding.....he was more bothered about my smart phone saying only use it on the right side....oposite ur heart.......
lucky for me I'm tot deaf on the left then.....hahaha......
checked loads on line, partic the US and concensus says nothing over 180amp MMA...
I now weld further away from the job (not quite arms length) PLUS the leads are never under my feet....
electromagnatism is the prob....have u seen what happens to metal dust near the leads when welding.....

SO what works for me may kill u but try it out.....life without welding is pants....
besides I have a barn to build/workshop.......hahaha

 

[voipio]

Defib pacemakers rely on continuously monitoring the electrical activity of the heart for missed beats, and sending a jolt to the cardiac muscle if too many beats are perceived to be missed. The problem is the signals being detected are tiny, typically a few millivolts, so anything external, that induces currents in the sensing leads, is likely to change the way the pacemaker behaves. The pacemaker circuitry does filter the input signal, but that is only good up to a point.

 

[DAPPH]

I've got a bad dose of terminal AF ... no longer does my heart go bum diddy bum , diddy buba doo as Sophie Loren used to sing . Nowadays it goes hop -skip -epileptic fit on a regular basis and then goes quiet for several beat .. it's a wierd sensation ..feels like I'm being drained off then a bucket full of energy hits me with a Tootifruit bam balam for three or four beats.

I'm told I'm not ready for a pace maker just now ... if I ever get one now I'm almost almost 71 I doubt a few more erratic sessions will do anything but kill me but by what a way to go & with me boots on too .

 

[tom2207]

Bugger chernobyl suits out then

ever noticed they keep telling you the x rays wont hurt , or do you any harm ,,,,



then they go and stand in the corner behind a big shield ..

kind of like the dentist saying , this wont hurt .....

 

[qwakers]

ever heard of cumulative exposure?

 

[tom2207]

ever heard of cumulative exposure?

Im a qualified radiographer [industrial] , another of my former jobs ,,

I was only joking.

 

[Lewis_RX8]

Im a qualified radiographer [industrial] , another of my former jobs ,,

I was only joking.

So you where the one behind the shield telling us it wont hurt

A conspiracy !

 

[tom2207]

So you where the one behind the shield telling us it wont hurt

A conspiracy !

Im the one who never put up a barricade or flashing beacons ,,, when shooting graphs.


as soon as you did that everyone came to stand and look over the barrier at the flashing lights




and this time Im not joking ,,, lol