Windows 11

[RWD3M]

Maybe it's time for me to upgrade from NT4 then?

 

[pcwizme]

Windows 11 installed on one of my machines, its the dev channel of Windows Insider so its likely to have some issues.
Won't be putting it on a work or business machine yet

Mug for scale (yes really)

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What machine is this? its a miniture thing of beauty (does it have usb ports? )

 

[Kayos]

Its a GPD micro pc

GPD Micro PC | Professional Mini PC for Work & Travel

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droix.co.uk

3 usb A
Usb C
Ethernet
Hdmi
Serial

 

[Bornfree]

Let's hope it's better than 10. 7 was brilliant

 

[skotl]

Now available on the dev channel to Windows 10 Insiders, so I've upgraded my living-room laptop (but not doing either of the work desktop PCs).

Upgrade process was completely painless, and all apps and settings seem to have survived.

Anyone concerned about a major deviation doesn't need to worry - rounded corners and a cleaner "Settings" app is about all I've spotted so far.

One clue I have picked up is that the rumours of a Windows 11 subscription would seem to be spot on:

 

[skotl]

Now available on the dev channel to Windows 10 Insiders,..

Just noticed that @Kayos said the same thing, earlier

 

[Kayos]

Just noticed that @Kayos said the same thing, earlier

I only put it on my tiny laptop

It doesn't play nice with acpi but other than that, it's been spot on

 

[gaz1]

extra info

Windows 11: What we like and don't like about Microsoft's operating system so far

Brace yourself, there have been some changes to the Start menu, File Explorer

www.theregister.com

and a nice you will use our search engine even if you use others

Windows 11 comes bearing THAAS, Trojan Horse as a service

You may know it better as Teams. Giddy up

www.theregister.com

You can spot a veteran of the Browser Wars a mile off. These fearsome conflicts, fought across the desktops of the world not 20 years ago, left deep scars.

via: IE, google and aol

By Gen XP, it was all over and the internet desktop was under total Empire control. Then came the Rebel Alliance of Chrome and Firefox, and in a few short years we were liberated.

 

[mike os]

so will they do the sensible thing if they are being so insistent on implementation requirements and drop legacy support for all the crap we no longer use?

while so many of you winge about ms thank god you dont own a mac... at least ms supports previous generations back to the stone age... well almost, is compatible with most sw and hw, even really old stuff like last year and you have been running a free version for several years... what more do you want? it to make you tea and wipe your ****?

 

[bill_gj]

My humble needs were always met by XP - yes, I know, I'm a Luddite, old codger, etc, etc.

I've had to contend with Vista (utter sh!te), 7, Office 2013 & 2016 and W10. Not to mention the poxy 365 which my wife insisted was right for her laptop and regularly frustrates her.

I bought a cleaned used workstation (HP Z800 & 24Gb RAM) with 10 pre-installed, because I wanted to learn 3D modelling (that job died so I never got around to the modelling).
Now I find the PC is regularly 'updating' and takes longer and longer to boot, on top of the (to me) mess that is the W10 menu and file system.
The two HDs are chattering all the time, it seems. I had an XP desktop that performed better at office apps.

I've been using Microsoft stuff at work and home since 1986 (Win 3)and before that a menu-driven system for office applications (Wang Office).
Started with 286 machines,386, 486 Pentiums, AMDs, etc. not to mention using time-sharing mainframes (VAX, Cyber, Honeywell) for specific applications.

Do I need W11? Do I f.... Just another bloated OS slowing down what should be reasonably quick machines so that MS can carry on pumping cash out of corporations and punters.

I need to put together another machine and learn Linux, I expect.

I forgot to moan about: IE (in its various guises), Watson, Office Assistant, bloody Bing. I always used Netscape Navigator until it was killed and then plain Google, now Firefox is my favourite browser.

 

[MCKDAVID]

a lot of older machines still run XP, no choice their ancient control hardware won't run anything else. as stand alone machines that's fine.....

 

[brewdexta]

The Windows 12 upgrade is Linux

Zorin is the Linux distribution that is supposed to have the best "Windoze" look and feel. Its designed to feel a bit Win 7 and has WINE pre-installed. (Windows emulator, some Windows apps will run in it) So probably the best bet for a Linux newbie.

Apart from a couple of annoying exceptions, I don't really need Windows, if it wasn't for a couple of apps and the availability of Windows licenses for a £5 on ebay, I would have dumped it years ago.

 

[skotl]

The Windows 12 upgrade is Linux

Zorin is the Linux distribution that is supposed to have the best "Windoze" look and feel. Its designed to feel a bit Win 7 and has WINE pre-installed. (Windows emulator, some Windows apps will run in it) So probably the best bet for a Linux newbie.

Apart from a couple of annoying exceptions, I don't really need Windows, if it wasn't for a couple of apps and the availability of Windows licenses for a £5 on ebay, I would have dumped it years ago.

You can go the other way now, with Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 (WSL2)

The Ultimate Guide to Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows WSL) (adamtheautomator.com)
Install WSL on Windows 10 | Microsoft Docs

This isn't running a VM within Windows, it's a full Linux kernel (your choice of Ubuntu, openSuse, Suse Enterprise, Debian, Fedora, Pengwin, Alpine or Kali) running inside of Windows and sharing resources.
You can even compile code on one platform and execute debug it on the other - I do this with .Net Core 5 running on Linux via Rider running inside Windows.

But now WSL even supports graphical Linux apps so I could install and run the Linux version of Rider and execute that inside Windows

 

[skotl]

You can go the other way now, with Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 (WSL2)

The Ultimate Guide to Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows WSL) (adamtheautomator.com)
Install WSL on Windows 10 | Microsoft Docs

This isn't running a VM within Windows, it's a full Linux kernel (your choice of Ubuntu, openSuse, Suse Enterprise, Debian, Fedora, Pengwin, Alpine or Kali) running inside of Windows and sharing resources.
You can even compile code on one platform and execute debug it on the other - I do this with .Net Core 5 running on Linux via Rider running inside Windows.

But now WSL even supports graphical Linux apps so I could install and run the Linux version of Rider and execute that inside Windows

Here you go...

WSL2 running on Windows 11 (also available on Win10): Microsoft Word in the background, gedit and gimp (both Linux graphical apps) running in the foreground, and even get their own icons on the task bar.

You can copy/paste between Linux and Windows apps, share Windows and Linux files in both, etc. All pretty seamless and not a Virtual Machine Hypervisor in sight!

 

[gaz1]

dont see the point in running linux on windows

either run windows or just run linux

 

[skotl]

dont see the point in running linux on windows

either run windows or just run linux

The main point is if you need to run both (which is admittedly not something that 99.9999% of the population needs to do!).
I write software that is intended to run on both Windows and Linux. Previously, I'd write it using a Windows toolset and then copy it to a Linux container in Azure, or a Linux VM on my machine, build it and test it there.

Now I can build the app on Windows and Linux directly from my tool of choice (Rider or CLion) and test it directly on the same machine. I can even run many of the integration tests directly, as both the Windows and Linux tools share the same filesystem.

To be honest, other than out of curiosity, the prime reason to run WSL (Linux on Windows) is if you're a software developer.

 

[brewdexta]

I bought a second hand laptop for the impending restart of my weekly commute to London, it came with Win10, but has a spare 1.8" SSD slot so bought one to fit it. Its a Lenovo yoga 13 with touch screen. I bought it as I had one previously, lasted ages but eventually died so can now be used for parts.

The original SSD is a bit low on space, so I shall install Zorin to the second SSD and dual boot it and give it a whirl. I rarely use Linux as a desktop except for my youngest daughter who's first PC was Ubuntu. It seems that the younger generation are desktop agnostic, she will use Windows, Linux, Chromebook/Android, Apple or whatever without thinking. Most of their apps are web based so the desktop type is almost immaterial.

 

[Kayos]

Upgraded the mini laptop to the first beta release and ive come out of the dev channel

Acpi issues now fixed, fan is no longer off or jet engine speed, varies as required

Can't really test the tile feature on a 6" screen but works with an external monitor, either hdmi or usbc

Ive also updated my external firewall, no sign of Microsoft spying on me with W11, still have a tinfoil hat handy if needed.......

 

[skotl]

Ive also updated my external firewall, no sign of Microsoft spying on me with W11, still have a tinfoil hat handy if needed.......

But how would you know...? I reckon "they" have compromised your external firewall, too

 

[Kayos]

But how would you know...? I reckon "they" have compromised your external firewall, too

Ive asked why the logs are always empty, maybe that's why?

Extra thick tinfoil hat when I reconfigure it all as my wired router tomorrow, dont want them sending signals straight into my brain from the 5G Covid Test Mast....