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That would be one hell
Of a cinderella if that shoe fitted
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Of a cinderella if that shoe fitted
Wedg1e
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I'm not surprised they've crashed, it looks like she's just queefed
Dashed excellent work there, old chap
chunkolini
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I have been waiting for that to show up. Weirdsville
KemppiFrog
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Hey, Chunko! You de man...................... In de hi heels
But.. how on earth do you quote for something like that? or just tell em the bill will reflect the effort? Esp. with the short lead time. Really nice woek there. Keep it up
KF
But.. how on earth do you quote for something like that? or just tell em the bill will reflect the effort? Esp. with the short lead time. Really nice woek there. Keep it up
KF
chunkolini
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They gave me a budget and then the guy in charge put it up for me.
I came up a much lower figure, he told me that this is what his customer is paying.
How do I price for weird jobs?
With difficulty but I have got quite good at it.
I guess the number of whole days, add a couple on, add a hassle factor for things going a bit tits up a haggle factor for emergencies and raw materials.
I also always ask for a ballpark budget to work within.
Some folk clam up at this, some are open. it is easier to plan a project to fit inside a budget.
I do love this side of my job. Ill formed ideas and concepts are exciting.
This job was organised by what you would call a 'fixer' somebody wants something doing and he gets it done via his massive address book.
I am hopefully his sculpture droid.
This took me five day but I needed two days to recover, my brain was scrambled and I was exhausted. But what a high making it.
I came up a much lower figure, he told me that this is what his customer is paying.
How do I price for weird jobs?
With difficulty but I have got quite good at it.
I guess the number of whole days, add a couple on, add a hassle factor for things going a bit tits up a haggle factor for emergencies and raw materials.
I also always ask for a ballpark budget to work within.
Some folk clam up at this, some are open. it is easier to plan a project to fit inside a budget.
I do love this side of my job. Ill formed ideas and concepts are exciting.
This job was organised by what you would call a 'fixer' somebody wants something doing and he gets it done via his massive address book.
I am hopefully his sculpture droid.
This took me five day but I needed two days to recover, my brain was scrambled and I was exhausted. But what a high making it.
chunkolini
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It was spotted in the background of a shot on Midlands Today; they were talking to the owner of the company about the budget, it was hard to spot but it looked promising.
chunkolini
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I was sent a photo of it yesterday.
I was not sure at first but it has grown on me.
I do like how fragile it looks.
I was not sure at first but it has grown on me.
I do like how fragile it looks.
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Wow Chunko that is awesome!! The sole looks so realistic and the top bits are brilliant the way the flow! I think you need to change careers and start designing stilettos... Really like it, you're quite the artist ey ;-) !
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I find the budget bit the hardest to tackle when receiving an emails for a commission. I always think people are going to be suspect when I ask how much they want to spend. Some are but some are quite happy with it.
chunkolini
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The budget thing is always the hardest bit.
KemppiFrog
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Very much so.
I once quoted for a job that would have been a nightmare, so priced it way over my normal ideas. They didn't blink, just asked when I could start. Which made me wonder if my 'normal ideas' were too low. I can't remember when I last got refused because of price. Actually I can, thinking, but when I passed the place a couple of years later, the job still hadn't been done, so not just me.
Best one was, he didn't even ask the price, liked the drawing and faxed back as to when it would be done. I like clients with that attitude
The extra margin on the 'nightmare' job paid for a trip to the USA. Few more like that would be nice.
Chunko, I think you have a rare eye for style and balance. But, it might be wasted on the Welsh..
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Reality is. Creativity is rarely properly recognised. Dispite my post above, one needs to be a bit hard nosed. Clients often do not realise how much thought goes into a project and that time costs, or should do. I have had a couple of cases (not my work) where they costed the materials, added a bit for fabrication, then wondered about the 'high' cost. Bit like the German clients.. Asked the local garden centre to plant out their villa. Then moaned about the price. I quizzed them why.. seems they had costed the plants by looking at other places but ignored the time and effort + transport to plant them.
chunkolini
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Kemmpi
That is a familiar story.
I was once asked how I could justify my prices as what I do is something I enjoy. I think i laughed at them.
My favourite, some stuck up guy was haggling about prices on some of my smaller work. I asked him loudly 'Would you do this in Sainsbury's' never saw him again, but got a laugh from somebody who was earwigging.
That is a familiar story.
I was once asked how I could justify my prices as what I do is something I enjoy. I think i laughed at them.
My favourite, some stuck up guy was haggling about prices on some of my smaller work. I asked him loudly 'Would you do this in Sainsbury's' never saw him again, but got a laugh from somebody who was earwigging.
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My answer to customers moaning over prices is..."your paying 10% for the job and 90% for 37 years experience,iff you want to save money then in 37 years time just do it yourself" soon shuts em up
KemppiFrog
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Part of the (my) problem is that I quite enjoy what I do, so have always had a problem charging for fun.
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