Car based buggy

[Baloo]

Yes thats what they are for, and you can say your prayers whilst having one of those ground sky ground sky moments

God 2 posts appeared whilst typeing that!

ground sky ground sky ground to old for that level of exersion, a gentle roll is as much excitement as l can take these days,

anyway enough of other buggys and back to mine, l have done a little more, everything with the exception of the exhaust system is now finished, so l think l am going to strip it and paint it then reassemble it and make up the exhaust when its back together
planning ahead l think l will need some sort of body work ? even if its just at the front in an effort to stop the front wheels filling my mouth with mud
l am prepared to have a go and make a couple of fiberglass panels for the front wings/bonnet, dont think l will bother trying to close the rear in, maybe just cycle type rear mudgards
l found a couple of ideas on ebay the first was a set of quad plastics

if we discard the rear bit, and then l was thinking about cutting the front section down the middle and then glassing in a 8" wide strip to make it wide enough to cover my front wheels, might need a bit more tweaking/adjusting to get it to fit nice but once its done l could take a mould off it and make the finished bonnet ?
second idea was a dutton melos front end style

same sort of thing really cut the head light pods off and smooth over, and maybe join the bonnet to the wings so as it a one piece lift off panel that finishes at the dash boad

ideas/comments please

Andy

 

[offroad 68]

I like the look of this porsch buggy especially the front end. Get some rough 911 wings and bonnet then cut out the arches and flare them for a buck.

 

[Baloo]

I like the look of this porsch buggy especially the front end. Get some rough 911 wings and bonnet then cut out the arches and flare them for a buck.

stop putting ideas in my head Lee
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320433856977&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT



looks a bargin though, but it wouldent fit very well, l should have started with the body shell and made the tube work fit inside the body, that would be cool having a go-kart that looks like a 911 porsch

my imagination is running away with me now, l have this smart car lookalike





its made of fiberglass and sits on a box section frame, it was electric drive but the batteries and the drive motor dident come with it, but..........
if l was to do the same as my buggy and use 2 mgf subframes conected together with a box section frame, engine in the rear as mgf and then drop this smart car body on a go-kart that looked like a smart car withan 1800cc vvc engine in the boot where the batteries use to be
er best finish this one first.................

 

[TheJoker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PM0O0dOCXs

 

[Baloo]

very good joker, l could live with one of those,

l got busy at work and had to put the buggy down for a bit but have managed to get back on it again now, just about reached the point of stripping down for painting then final assembly, yipee

 

[Baloo]

well l have reached the painting stage at last, the mgf subframes have come back from the shot blasters and are catching up with the main frame, such a messy bit of the job, cant wait to shove the buggy outside and have a good sweep/tidy up

 

[Baloo]

and a few more

 

[TheJoker]

Wow!!! Loving it! Fantastic.

 

[Baloo]

cheers, thanks joker

 

[Baloo]

well l have got most of the suspension components cleaned up now, what a thankless job that is, dropped the engine back in the frame from the top, that was tight, but with a bit of a wriggle it went in, everything is very tight but should just about be ok,

 

[Sam]

You put me to shame! I cant get motivated to finish off brake and oil lines and sort out the wiring. Looking good tho!

 

[Baloo]

lol, l doubt l could put you to shame Sam
motivation is required here some times too, especially when theres the not so interesting jobs to do like cleaning up the suspension, but l get round this by taking the honda pilot out on the track and having a ball as we did on Saturday, this spurs me on to get it finished so as l can test it





http://www.youtube.com/user/andyhaycock1#p/a/2/Atia3f5JvQI

http://www.youtube.com/user/andyhaycock1#p/a/u/0/ZYbMIP3uTeU

http://www.youtube.com/user/andyhaycock1#p/a/3/7xm3cuJF3zM

l am intrested to see how the mgf/metro hydro suspension behaves compared to the pilots, l am going to individualise the units so as l can pump them up and down and see what effect it has on the handling, clearly l wont have the same amount of axle travel as a pilot but will this be a disadvantage on the relatively smooth track, l think l will enjoy tinkering with it after its finished as much as biulding it.

Andy

 

[Baloo]

its about this time that l look at the wiring explosion and wish l had used an su carb and a points distributer
theres a lot to this wiring lark, even more so as l dident strip the mgf and was given the wiring loom in a bin bag with everything that would un plug detached and in another bag still l am getting there slowly whether it will ever start or not is another matter















anyway my mind is running overtime planning my next project, l found this on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD7Aief5pKA&feature=player_embedded

its where l think l am going next , need a small light engine with an auto box, possibly 3 cylinder like the corsa 12v 1000cc, but l cant seem to find one thats an auto, anyone got any alternative small engines with auto boxes?


Andy

 

[fungus]

What about a Smart? do they have auto/semi-auto setup?

 

[Sam]

Here is the Metro rear and mid engine setup you should be aming for.

 

[Baloo]

hi Fungus

l will have to investigate the smart car power unit, might be a bit small capacity wise, one choice l had overlooked is the good old metro or rover 100 with the K sieres and cvt gearbox, as its a 8 valve in the metro its nice and slim and good for squeezing into a tight space, also l think the cvt gearox might pay dividens with no gearchanges to upset the vehicle, anyways its all in my head right now need to get my mgf buggy out of the work shop first

 

[Baloo]

Here is the Metro rear and mid engine setup you should be aming for.

lol a bit over kill for hooning around the bottom of my garden, but some intresting engineering non the less,
l am in the sign trade and have been for 30 years, a lot of my work back then was vehicle livery, around 1986 there was an annual event called the birmingham superprix, formula 3000, british touring cars and several other catergories made up the grid, one of these caterories was the metro 6r4, one of my pals at the time worked for a company doing some of the organising and got me the job of applying the livery to the guest 6r4's, they dropped 4 new(ish) 6r4's to my workshop on the friday night and we had to letter them overnight for them to be collected at 7am the next morning, well by 3 am we had finished quite industrial estate 3am in the morning no one about and 4 6r4's sitting there well it would be rude not to try one, they certainly go alright
stupid when l think back but at 20 odd years old you dont think of the consquences, l would be still paying for it now if l had stuffed it up
but there was plenty more just down the road at longbridge, l had been down there doing some work and there was a compound full of them, they couldent give them away back then
heres a vid, the car l er.... tested round an industrial estate is on the grid but l best not point it out although it was 25 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjKjDSDhvn8&feature=player_embedded#

Andy

 

[oseloth]

Hay Andy.
Question. You made it as a rear wheel drive, wright?

How hard is it to make a rear wheel drive from a front wheel drive?

 

[oz.]

How hard is it to make a rear wheel drive from a front wheel drive?

Quite easy really. I've seen a Peugeot 205 'MI32'. 2x 16v engines...

For the rear engine he simply used the subframe, suspension and engine from another car ad dropped it in. Obviously he still had the steering in place so this was then locked (but still adjustable)

 

[Baloo]

hi oseloth

yes rear wheel drive, in the end l used a rear engined car as a doner, l was going to use a metro which is front engined but an mgf came along at the right price,
both cars use the same engine which is called the "K" series, so its the same engine that one modle uses in the front and another model has it in the rear much like the toyota mr2 has the engine in the back while the celica has the same engine but in the front,
there are 3 things to overcome when using a front wheel drive engine and box in the rear all are doable
if you use the front suspension at the back you wont have a hand brake mech so you will have to use brake calipers of another vehicle, the front hubs which are now at the rear want to steer so they have to locked off to prevent them from turning, thats easy with a steering arm bolted to the chassis somewhere,
and the hardest to over come unless you are using an automatic gearbox is the gear change, most front wheel drive cars have the gearchange rod that goes into the gearbox on the back of the gear box up against the bulkhead this makes it easy for the manafacturer to make a linkage through the bulkhead and to where the driver can reach it, but when you move the engine to behind the seats it couldent be worse the selector rod is right at the back of the buggy with the engine/box in the way, it can be done with rods but its a pain in the **** and will require adjustment, much better to use a cable change set up of something like an mgf or toyota mr2

bit quite at work to say the least so l thought l might print some graphics for the side panels of the buggy, came up with the name sidewinder ??







still got to laminate them yet to help resist the enevitable scratches they will aquire

Andy