Climate change, real or no deal.

[Steveblade]

We bought LED lamps for home to save on power consumption about 18months ago, the plan was it would save money . Before this Id bought the flourecent type for the same reason lower power usage but they all failed far to quickly, bought at the supermarket 3 or 5 year life time etc claimed. Id say an old incandecent lamp would have lasted 2/3 times longer.

Anyway the LED's are (not so cheap) super low consumption 9W, and have a huge life time, so much money will be saved even though they cost 5 or 6 times as much.

But NO, they are giving up the ghost now to, way before they should. I think they were rated at 50000 hours so 5 years ish continuous use. Im begining to think the incandecent lamp is the better option, I mean price wise I could have bought 5 or 6 for every one of the LED's. Seems like Ive been scammed/ guilted into buying the more power efficent lamps but I could have just spent that on the electricity. I wonder how much energy went into the manufacture of the crappy LED's. What do you guys think.

 

[mcostello]

Spent $140 USD about a year ago. Saving around $8-$10 a month on the elec bill. Bulbs came from Russia for around $3.50 + shipping. Very pleased.

 

[Brad93]

We bought LED lamps for home to save on power consumption about 18months ago, the plan was it would save money . Before this Id bought the flourecent type for the same reason lower power usage but they all failed far to quickly, bought at the supermarket 3 or 5 year life time etc claimed. Id say an old incandecent lamp would have lasted 2/3 times longer.

Anyway the LED's are (not so cheap) super low consumption 9W, and have a huge life time, so much money will be saved even though they cost 5 or 6 times as much.

But NO, they are giving up the ghost now to, way before they should. I think they were rated at 50000 hours so 5 years ish continuous use. Im begining to think the incandecent lamp is the better option, I mean price wise I could have bought 5 or 6 for every one of the LED's. Seems like Ive been scammed/ guilted into buying the more power efficent lamps but I could have just spent that on the electricity. I wonder how much energy went into the manufacture of the crappy LED's. What do you guys think.

Buy the screwfix ones, LAP. They have a 3 year warranty

 

[Kayos]

Ive discussed this with some sparks recently, most bulbs are offered as decent quality but are just the usual China junk. They have now found a supplier who not only swaps them under warranty but also pays an hours labour. Haven't had 1 fail yet

 

[Other Daniel]

Ive discussed this with some sparks recently, most bulbs are offered as decent quality but are just the usual China junk. They have now found a supplier who not only swaps them under warranty but also pays an hours labour. Haven't had 1 fail yet

Same here.
I get ours from a local electrical trade counter, and haven't had any issues.
Provenance is important with LED's.

Daniel

 

[Wildefalcon]

Climate change or no, it makes sense to save the oil for important things. So, well done.

 

[Screwdriver]

AGW is very real but our response to it so far has been underwhelming to say the least. Rather than go for the major polluters and energy users, the "powers that be" went for the consumer and basically hit them in the pocket.

Having said that, LED bulbs should make the single biggest difference to the consumer regards bang for buck. Chances are, if you bought those bulbs "years ago" they won't be as efficient or as robust as the ones in production now.

On the other hand, doubling my energy bill (and then some) makes very little difference to global warming because I don't waste energy anyway.

 

[frank horton]

bought a 3ft, cos thats all they had at a supermarket, just to try one.....no such thing as an electrical suppliers where I lived.....
cost €29......it was left on night and day for the 4 years before I moved.....took it with me....

think it's a bit like leky solar panel, pretty much all made in China but most down to a price.....
wouldnt know where to start looking for decent gear....
a good friend contacted a German co to have solar fitted, that till he found out the panels were Chinese.....
Quote, the amount ur charging they should be made in Europe.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

will look into Screwfix ones.......

 

[8ob]

It’s quite laughable that Europe at enormous expense is trying to wave the green flag when the rest of the world is polluting the air and seas on a monumental scale. Worse still a lot of these other countries are doing this to supply us greenies in the western world with all this rubbish we want but don’t need.

Bob

 

[grim_d]

Climate change is very real, but it's also very natural, we cannot stop it.

We did not cause it but we are certainly speeding up the process and our ignorance and selfishness are creating a filthy planet.

Humans are temporary much like the dinosaurs and after we are gone the climate will continue to change.

Eventually the sun will burn out and life on this planet will cease entirely.

My car gets 18mpg but I loathe single use plastics...go figure.

At least I live in Scotland where all our electricity is "green"

 

[8ob]

At least I live in Scotland where all our electricity is "green"

Brought to you down a cable thats made near this river

 

[gaz1]

Climate change is very real, but it's also very natural, we cannot stop it.

We did not cause it but we are certainly speeding up the process and our ignorance and selfishness are creating a filthy planet.

At least I live in Scotland where all our electricity is "green"

no its not

 

[mike os]

Climate change... now in its 5bn th year.....possibly the ultimate tautology.

As real as a heart attack, as unstoppable as the sun

For led's get from an electrical merchants... they dont sell crap because they don't want the grief

 

[gaz1]

It’s quite laughable that Europe at enormous expense is trying to wave the green flag when the rest of the world is polluting the air and seas on a monumental scale. Worse still a lot of these other countries are doing this to supply us greenies in the western world with all this rubbish we want but don’t need.

Bob

yeah its called dump the western rubbish on other countrys as its cheaper to get rid that way

same with everything else its cheaper to send it all abroad and bring it back love the cheap labour /safety crap as well

 

[gaz1]

prime example for us and uk waste

 

[grim_d]

Brought to you down a cable thats made near this river

It does make me sad to see stuff like that, but that's humanity, we are parasitic, the sooner we are gone the better.

no its not

Which part? The "green" electricity, it was in quotes for a reason.

I live very close to the largest wind farm in the UK though, I must be getting some of its pixies.

 

[gaz1]

wind farms get shut down in high winds so where does your electric come from then ?

same with not enough wind to produce electric

 

[Jbo2231]

We most definitely have caused it. Yes global warming happens naturally but nowhere near the rate that it has since we have been around. It would be similar to saying that a murderer only made something happen that was going to happen in x amount of years time anyway.

As a species havent added or removed much on the planet but what we have done is shuffle everything around and release enormous quantities of CO2 from burning fossil fuels. This is co2 that should of been locked away in the earth's crust rather than floating around the place.
The studies that showed that EVs arent that green also worked out the figures based on a fossil fuel generator supplying the electricity. If you use renewable electricity to power them you only have to drive just under 20000 miles to be carbon neutral.
I agree that we arent there yet but we are taking baby steps in the right direction. The other thing to consider is that an electric vehicle doesnt emit co2 in the centre of cities or towns where people live. The reduction in air pollution related illnesses would be massive, you just have to look at the very small changes that happened when not many people were using the roads. Premature deaths in children in China reduced by quite a significant amount due to reduced air pollution.

 

[gaz1]

do any of you live in a hilly area do you think its unfair that the people who live in this area have to be charged twice for 2 charges compared to one charge that people in flat areas have

oh i agree was better in covid situation with air polution dont see anyone stopping at a desired point and getting the bus into town yet though they still want to drive there

then theres the knock on effect people stop visiting towns whats the point have to get 2 transports there so shops close

 

[grim_d]

wind farms get shut down in high winds so where does your electric come from then ?

same with not enough wind to produce electric

There are a multitude of wind farms where I am.

Also very close to Hunterston (though the green aspect of nuclear is debatable)

We also have many hydro stations and a biomass station.

My point really is that none of the electricity generated in Scotland is by conventional fossil fuels.