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mtt.tr
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I completely agree, some AI's just should not be in business
pedrobedro
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When they measured up they had one of those self-levelling levels, and a laser measure. Which I’d imagine could both be very accurate provided they’re properly calibrated and used properly…
I don’t know why’d I’d not done it before, but I checked the measurement of the upright box section that they had to cut short and rejoin to make it fit - I’d not bothered before because they’d said it was the builders placement of the padstones that raised the beam it sits on, so I’d just assumed it must be shorter than planned now they’d taken a slice out… except it now measures the same as their plan, so it’s looking like the upright was manufactured too long in the first place.
Yeah the AI seems to have done a few things wrong beyond just saying work was right when it wasn’t - at the moment there’s a case handler from the MP trying to get answers about potential prosecution and who should be doing it since CICAIR, BCA, ACAI, DLUHC, HSE, BSR and LABC either wont answer or just pass the buck. It’s surprising how reluctant people are to put anything in writing!
There’s a solicitor appointed, which is grinding along very slowly (they’ve been working on it since January, and it doesn’t look like anything will be happening any time soon), but funnily enough today the case handler got in touch and apparently a higher up solicitor thinks going after each of the subcontractors is something they could do, so hopefully things might start getting entertaining soon.
I was just going through some emails between the engineer and the steels company and spotted that the engineer said that with the post supporting the cranked ridge beam, the baseplate is missing a bolt to fix it to the beam below, and they should do that... The steels company responded that they couldn't get access for the bolt, so it was welded instead.
The bolt hole doesn't look welded at all, so are they saying the plate was welded to the beam below? If that's the case, the only place it looks like it could be done is through where the upright post joins the plate?
The bolt hole doesn't look welded at all, so are they saying the plate was welded to the beam below? If that's the case, the only place it looks like it could be done is through where the upright post joins the plate?
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Good grief! Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.
At least you won't have to tear it all down. Just sit back and wait...
At least you won't have to tear it all down. Just sit back and wait...
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The load is straight down so that missing bolt isnt going to make a difference.
The pictures of the welds further up, are not pretty, but there not going anywhere in a hurry. For me the work is just shoddy, by someone who clearly didnt want to be up in your roof with an inverter! They want sacking, so hopefully the rest of the staff buckup!
I think that's down to the plate they were using, maybe, or because that end is right up against the breather membrane under the roof?
They left the rest of it behind and it looks a bit rusty -
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Too bone idle to clean the mill scale off before welding!
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I thought it'd be worth updating...
Thanks to the rest of the building work being so bad, everything down to the tops of walls had to be taken out and rebuilt... so it's been a bit busy here!
The new steels look... like they actually should. fitted without a hitch, and now have the proper bearings, and real pad stones, rather than brick-sized chunks of lintel. All coated and rather pretty looking - it's almost tempting to leave them visible, they look so good! The steel company was happy to talk to both the BC officer and structural engineer to confirm everything, and building control have checked everything off and are happy.
As for the old steels lot... turns out it was worse than I thought even up to that point. It had been fitted/measured so badly that bottom of the cranked bit had actually been forced through the front of the roof, tearing the felt and breaking and bending tile battens. It looks like maybe it was the wrong angle, too, as by the top of the roof, it was below the rafters...
At least that explains why they were hitting that upright post hard enough to cave it in - they weren't just moving the steel, but the roof as well!
On the plus side - it came down very easily!
They've had a letter before action, and have agreed to a meeting to discuss... Fingers crossed they do the decent thing.
Thanks to the rest of the building work being so bad, everything down to the tops of walls had to be taken out and rebuilt... so it's been a bit busy here!
The new steels look... like they actually should. fitted without a hitch, and now have the proper bearings, and real pad stones, rather than brick-sized chunks of lintel. All coated and rather pretty looking - it's almost tempting to leave them visible, they look so good! The steel company was happy to talk to both the BC officer and structural engineer to confirm everything, and building control have checked everything off and are happy.
As for the old steels lot... turns out it was worse than I thought even up to that point. It had been fitted/measured so badly that bottom of the cranked bit had actually been forced through the front of the roof, tearing the felt and breaking and bending tile battens. It looks like maybe it was the wrong angle, too, as by the top of the roof, it was below the rafters...
At least that explains why they were hitting that upright post hard enough to cave it in - they weren't just moving the steel, but the roof as well!
On the plus side - it came down very easily!
They've had a letter before action, and have agreed to a meeting to discuss... Fingers crossed they do the decent thing.
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Nice to see an update, all too often we never get any closure. Old steel fab company want shafting royally, the work done is embarrassing!
This is the company - ** Mod edit- link removed **
They did a site survey, drew the drawings, manufactured and installed the steels themselves.
They have said "we maintain our steelwork was structurally sound and fit for purpose"
They did a site survey, drew the drawings, manufactured and installed the steels themselves.
They have said "we maintain our steelwork was structurally sound and fit for purpose"
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must have slept with a welder
