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You haven't had enough electric exposure.
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I saw one today looked good
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The 3.0 software is supposed to hopefully fix the scheduling issues, but yeah it’s no bother to do it at the charger level.
I got a dumb charger via work staff purchase (at the time we didn’t do smart chargers, they have only just introduced those) - but a £5 Shelly smart relay sorted mine out! I have a Tapo plug doing the timing for the moment as it’s sat in the garage but once I get it on the wall outside I’ll use the Shelly relay as it’s small enough to sit inside the box.
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Iv driven a lot of electric cars and went int he new hideously ugly bmw on Friday night
Whilst it’s fast it’s never gonna be for me
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Basically you are the English version of hemis are the best, when we all know they are not
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They certainly ain’t the bestBasically you are the English version of hemis are the best, when we all know they are not
I hate the asthmatic noise they make for starters
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No you've missed what I was saying
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will have a looksy, im being told a 10kw will be enough but i think 10kw is 13 hp which dosent sound enough, but then im told the instant torque will make it feel like 100hp i dunno
Electric motors are rated for continuous duty, car engines state their max output. My Nissan Leaf is three times the weight of your vehicle and in normal granny driving I will be using somewhere around 10kW power.
Your budget and ability to source components will determine the route you go down - old school DC motor and controller with lead acid batteries, modern AC controller with lithium batteries or even using repurposed hybrid components if you are going to a full hands on DIY build and repurpose electronics.
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Have A look at some of the batteries from hybrids? Smaller than full EV batteries but may fit your bill. Then Theres cooling and controlling it, just pipes and wires as for the motor maybe take a look at an EDU from a motorbike and run 1 or two, that's the engine which would usually go in there, from a motorbike?
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I like the idea of using bits from a hybrid. I'm looking for an electric side by side utility vehicle, a bit like a John Deer Gator or Kawasaki Mule, but a lot cheaper as we only have 4 acres of steep land to trundle around.
Buying new is anything from 12 to 20k, 12k for a Chinese special and 20k for a Polaris, and they are not known for reliability.
I'm in no rush and retirement is looming, so buying a second hand side by side, preferably with knackered engine and converting it to EV using hybrid bits sounds a fun project.
Buying new is anything from 12 to 20k, 12k for a Chinese special and 20k for a Polaris, and they are not known for reliability.
I'm in no rush and retirement is looming, so buying a second hand side by side, preferably with knackered engine and converting it to EV using hybrid bits sounds a fun project.
I know a 93yo fella & he loves his Nissan Leaf. He only ever drives locally, never has to go to a garage for fuel as its plugged in in his home garage ready to go. Plus he's "all there" and knows that he ain't really needing to worry to worry too much about long-term reliability, residual value etc 
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He also has the most immaculate, clean Myford Metal lathe sharing the garage with his Leaf - talk about opposite ends of the scale!
I know which if the two I looked at & went "ooh that's nice!"
.He also has the most immaculate, clean Myford Metal lathe sharing the garage with his Leaf - talk about opposite ends of the scale!
I know which if the two I looked at & went "ooh that's nice!"
"I'm looking for an electric side by side utility vehicle, a bit like a John Deer Gator or Kawasaki Mule,"
Oddly enough UTVs seem to have started out as converted golf buggies rather than Quads so maybe coming at your problem by converting an electric golf buggy would be easier than turning a petrol engined machine into an electric one. However if Chinese electric UTVs depreciate at the rate of their diesel engined models, wait two years and you will get one for very little money.
I have been thinking about electric quads, it is time someone came out with a decent one at the same price as a petrol engined models. Chinese seem very low powered (circa 3kw motors) The big US made machine looks good until you notice no mention of 4WD. We have a customer badly wanting an electric Quad as he has acres of solar panels on his farm buildings, but we can't get normal Quads from Honda or Suzuki at the moment, so I suspect they are not going to be making electric ones anytime soon.
Also note the first 27 posts gave no practical advice for OP, I don't count advising someone to watch vintage voltage as helpful, I have watched them all, and learnt nothing. Come on, this forum can do better.
Oddly enough UTVs seem to have started out as converted golf buggies rather than Quads so maybe coming at your problem by converting an electric golf buggy would be easier than turning a petrol engined machine into an electric one. However if Chinese electric UTVs depreciate at the rate of their diesel engined models, wait two years and you will get one for very little money.
I have been thinking about electric quads, it is time someone came out with a decent one at the same price as a petrol engined models. Chinese seem very low powered (circa 3kw motors) The big US made machine looks good until you notice no mention of 4WD. We have a customer badly wanting an electric Quad as he has acres of solar panels on his farm buildings, but we can't get normal Quads from Honda or Suzuki at the moment, so I suspect they are not going to be making electric ones anytime soon.
Also note the first 27 posts gave no practical advice for OP, I don't count advising someone to watch vintage voltage as helpful, I have watched them all, and learnt nothing. Come on, this forum can do better.
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I'm not sure golf buggies are
4WD and we definitely need it where we live, 25% gradient and lots of clay.
I've seen very few Hisun EV utility vehicles second hand at the moment but I guess this could change. It will be a couple of years before I look at this seriously so will take a look then. 6k buys a useable diesel gator/mule that needs TLC, but borrowing the neighbour's is cheaper
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I’m due a new work truck. Been told this will be the last of the diesel vehicles we get. All electric after this. I pull a trailer every day, I use a spot light mounted on the roof, I charge batteries and phones from the vehicle. The dog has air conditioning in his box, it’s on all the time. How will electric vehicles cope with this?
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I guess driving a mile will be equivalent to charging your phone about 500 times (3 years worth?) spot light probably similar and the dog might use some. But the accessories are so insignificant compared to driving the wheels it’s not the big factor folk think. We discussed in another post but if my kids watch a movie on the driveway with heat pump on and interior lighting it uses 1-2% over the 2 hours. That’s somewhere between 4-10 miles driving. Pulling a trailer I’m not sure - the EVs themselves are pretty heavy so I guess proportionately the effect is less than ICE but it’s definitely going to make a significant difference. I guess you’ll get a bit more back on the overrun
truth is we’ll need bigger batteries in general. Hopefully the development continues to create them.But when you've had a really crap day, it's impossible not to grin when you press the "start" button . . . when the whole car rocks in reaction to it firing, and there's a V8 rumble . . .Basically you are the English version of hemis are the best, when we all know they are not
I might have gone out and just started it on occasion . . .
I'm not sure a sound of a milk-float I used to drive around a motorway service site to empty bins when I was 22 ish is going to give me the same feeling
thank you all for your replies, i see some people love em and some people hate em lol
10kw in the answer above is what i wanted to know it gives me an idea of how to size the motor, i have 2 reasons for wanting to go electric first is to keep up with the world and learn but the main reason is noise or lack of it, i have a track through the woods at the bottom of my garden that i like to rip round its why i built it and im a great believer in we should all be allowed to do what we want as long as it dosent affect anyone else, the local village is maybe half a mile away and they can hear my buggy which is mazda MX5 powered with all its silencers on and on a sunday morning it competes with the church bells and they dont like it lol,
track i want to use it on looks like this undulating no steep hills
, so if i had an electric buggy they couldn't see me or hear me then everyone's happy and i wont get another visit from the council so thats the main reason, I've just sold an old Nissan S12 turbo and have about 3k left from that for toy money so that's the budget,
I've been talking to a chap in Canada whos converted his sxs to electric and he's reasonably happy with it, a bit lacking on steep hills is how he describes the performance, he's used a 10kw motor which is prompting me to use a 20kw he's used one of these buggies
i was going to use an existing buggy and modify it but have drifted to the idea of making it from scratch as i can build the layout to take the components i select rather than adapt, the chap ive been talking to has mounted his motor where the prop shaft would normally be and fed it into a suzuki ( i think ) gearbox with built in transfer box he only uses first gear which is 3.6 to 1 then a 4 to 1 transfer to get to the 12 to 1 reduction needed from the 5000rpm motor, im thinking of mounting the motor above the diff and chain driving down to the diff flange allowing me gearing options and a smaller package
so thats a 10kw motor and it goes pretty quick hes sent me some on board videos but all through my life ive used the policy of work out what you want then get the next level up be it tools, equipment or toys lol so 20kw is where i think im going, ive found this supplier with a 20 kw water cooled motor
difficult to get a scale from a picture but the output shaft on this pic is 30mm dia
the 20kw rating is under normal running, peak for up to 1 minute is 40kw so accelerating shouldn't be a problem
hunting around i have found this motor for sale for £1500 the controller runs about £600 so ive got about 1k left to find some batteries from a leaf i guess
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But when you've had a really crap day, it's impossible not to grin when you press the "start" button . . . when the whole car rocks in reaction to it firing, and there's a V8 rumble . . .
I might have gone out and just started it on occasion . . .
I'm not sure a sound of a milk-float I used to drive around a motorway service site to empty bins when I was 22 ish is going to give me the same feeling
I'm only being awkward.
But I do do love the sound of a bloody great 100+kw induction motor spooling up. I find that immensely satisfying
But when you've had a really crap day, it's impossible not to grin when you press the "start" button . . . when the whole car rocks in reaction to it firing, and there's a V8 rumble . . .
I might have gone out and just started it on occasion . . .
I'm not sure a sound of a milk-float I used to drive around a motorway service site to empty bins when I was 22 ish is going to give me the same feeling
i have to agree about the noise a V8 makes nothing better, ive had my my fair share of V8 buggies, but they are just so slow
