External Gate Hinge repair solutions?

[JOEPRO]

Slight progress again tonight.

The paint is really nice stuff to use feels like old school solvent paint goes on good & smoothes out very well.

 

[JOEPRO]

I got to needle descaling many layers of old paint off this gate today:


Doing so revealed some nice details including confirming this is the original gate from circa 1920s Northburn was the steel maker which was open between 1920 - 1938 when it merged.

All riveted connections.






Some metal repairs tomorrow and it will be ready for a few coats of new shiny black paint.

 

[Onoff]

A nice wash with phosphoric would help stabilise the rust I reckon.

 

[Gareth J]

That's a nice period thing to have tidied up and saved

 

[JOEPRO]

That's a nice period thing to have tidied up and saved

Yes for sure. I was told earlier in this thread that it was time for a new gate pal.

But this gate is infinitely more interesting than anything modern that could be made IMO. It's a 100 year old gate and under all that paint it's in very good condition considering the age of it. After some weld repairs tomorrow it should have many more years ahead of it

 

[chrismac]

Yes for sure. I was told earlier in this thread that it was time for a new gate pal.

But this gate is infinitely more interesting than anything modern that could be made IMO. It's a 100 year old gate and under all that paint it's in very good condition considering the age of it. After some weld repairs tomorrow it should have many more years ahead of it

now youve gone to all the hard work of repairing, why would you not consider galvanising it?
There is no way a gate would last 100 years where I am, too close to the sea the salt air makes metal disappear.
Nice touch with the steel makers name stamped in the metal work.

 

[JOEPRO]

Some further progress. I let in some new matching gauge angle iron where the original had rusted right through and cut off the excess width:





I had applied a coat of a hammerite anti rust primer.

Then the first coat of the black ironwork paint brushed on tonight:



(Top curls taken off and being painted separately)

If you are looking for it the replacement sections are visible. But it should not be perfect. That in itself is showing an honest repair on the gate. Its a historic building principle I guess whereby it is OK to install new modern block walls inside a several hundred year old stone building. Why? Because in the future it can be distinguished from the original fabric.

That paint lays superb best black metal gloss paint I have ever used. There will be another final coat applied tomorrow night then allow that to cure and get ready to re fit the gate on Saturday weather permitting.

 

[DAPPH]

Any ideas on how best to remove several mm worth of old paint?

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I'm thinking of needle descaler first for the real built up sections near corners etc then an angle grinder and wire wheel. Possibly some chemical stripper too

Make a wooden frame a foot bigger all round from old scaff boards line it with two thickness of water proof membrane then make a strong caustic soda mix and fully immerse all painted parts . Cold caustic takes a little longer than stuff outn of a steam generator at 106 oC
Two days later take it out and give it a good clean with a decent power washer
Dilute the caustic solution and put it bucket by bucket down an outside drain then wash off everything on the membrane etc. You might also use a soda sand blaster off a power washer to remove any rust left behind

 

[JOEPRO]

Make a wooden frame a foot bigger all round from old scaff boards line it with two thickness of water proof membrane then make a strong caustic soda mix and fully immerse all painted parts . Cold caustic takes a little longer than stuff outn of a steam generator at 106 oC
Two days later take it out and give it a good clean with a decent power washer
Dilute the caustic solution and put it bucket by bucket down an outside drain then wash off everything on the membrane etc. You might also use a soda sand blaster off a power washer to remove any rust left behind

Thanks for this

In the end I opted for the needle descaler and Metallica in my earbuds technique

 

[JOEPRO]

Going to hang it today

 

[steve t]

I'd grind the bolt heads holding the scrolls on to look like rivets or use actual rivets.

 

[JOEPRO]

That worked out very well. Gate is adjusted and doesn't catch the wall anymore, new keeper made and welded on and the original handle etc back on and latching automatically when pulled closed. It's been here since 1920 approx so hopefully it will be here for many more years to come.

 

[Gareth J]

Not tempted to fit a grease nipple in the new gate eye?

 

[noswarp]

I asked if anyone knew of good online suppliers for hinges.

I didn't think there was anything offensive in that request.

I appreciate I should have said the gate was a historic part of the house hence why I wanted to fix it VS replacing it.

I asked if anyone knew of good online suppliers for hinges.

I didn't think there was anything offensive in that request.

I appreciate I should have said the gate was a historic part of the house hence why I wanted to fix it VS replacing it.

Unfortunately you have strayed onto a site where common kindness is very thin on the ground. That's an excellent you have there, nice job. Good luck with the rest of the work.

 

[Farside]

My other half has bought a house locally to rent out.

I am helping with some odd jobs. First one is the original gate (wrought iron?) Has a really worn top hinge.

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The handle is also in dire need of repair.

For the top hinge does anyone know of any off the shelf solutions or mail order suppliers please?

It's a 22mm diameter pin and it needs to sit 50mm from face of wall to centre of pin.

Otherwise I can make a custom bracket for it not a huge deal just might save time is all. View attachment 435669

A blob of grease once a decade would have worked wonders.

 

[Farside]

Unfortunately you have strayed onto a site where common kindness is very thin on the ground.

You know nothing.

 

[GRW]

They are 1920s houses all of them still have their original gates. We will blast and repaint it also its AOK for another 20+ years

Quick and easy to just sleeve the worn pivot to take out the slop?

 

[GRW]

one bad tenant is all most folk can stand ,,, Im selling property as it becomes vacant now , its past a joke being a landlord .

A mate is a successful business owner recently retired.
He owns & rents commercial premises only, & told his rationale for that was simple - a bad tenant or non-payment of rent on a Commercial property & ulyou just change the locks & shut them out.
He had zero interest in house rental.

 

[GRW]

Slight progress again tonight.

The paint is really nice stuff to use feels like old school solvent paint goes on good & smoothes out very well.

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I used some of that to repaint an old singer sewing machine base (the ubiquitous Singer slate topped garden table) a few years back. It's been out in my folks back garden in wet Wales for I'd guess a good 7 or 8 years.
Red oxide as primer & then that stuff to finish, and it still looks grand now

 

[JOEPRO]

Quick and easy to just sleeve the worn pivot to take out the slop?

Since the original gate wall was leaning and required adjustment what I ended up doing was really the only option here. If it was just wear in the hinge to deal with then that may have been an option.