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I guess that might be my problem
It gets damn hot in there.
It's a 5 metre wide x 6 metre deep room.
Thats from front wall to into the house walls so my guess is 5metre x 5 metre would be plenty.
Plus in one corner I have a utility room approx 3 metres x 2 metres which has a fixed plaster board ceiling.
So my maths gets a rough estimate of 19 to 20 square metres of cladding.
Plus the same of facia if I went that way...
Where was the link to 5 metre lengths of 20mm vladfing . All I can find is 2400 x1200.
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i didnt post it as its expensive
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ive found a pic for you and also with my search terms so you can see how it looks on a ceiling with cladding
upvc cladding conservatory ceiling - Google Search
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I like this one....
Roof Cladding For Polycarbonate Conservatory Roofs
Adding roof cladding to a conservatory with a polycarbonate roofs can be a great way of giving the appearance of a solid roof inside.
gardiniawindows.co.uk
Yes that's correct.
The blue thing in the top corner of second photo is the utility room.
No windows are direct to roof all lintel 5 metres with even the sliding door being a few inches lower than the roof.
Walls both side do not have windows in either.....this is my concern is I will need lighting even in the day.
I would like to have part of the insulation sliding.
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yours is ample enough to drop it down enough by 2" and also use my way for the light to be reflected around the room from the roof lights but you will have to do what i did to get that method
the insulation that we use its tile board or insulation cement board
but with yours id consider the 2" insulation board
then finish off with what you want to use it depends on what you want to spend
therefore theres no need to slide back anything
the insulation that we use its tile board or insulation cement board
but with yours id consider the 2" insulation board
then finish off with what you want to use it depends on what you want to spend
therefore theres no need to slide back anything
What is 2 inch Insulation board?
Is it the stuff that snaps easily?
Looking at the situation I can fit a rail to the front wall and each side of the min beam. Then a rail on the back wall.
What did you use for the skylights to insulate it ..
I don't think that price is too bad.
I could insulate it and then clad it if I feel it was needed..
Is it the stuff that snaps easily?
Looking at the situation I can fit a rail to the front wall and each side of the min beam. Then a rail on the back wall.
What did you use for the skylights to insulate it ..
I don't think that price is too bad.
I could insulate it and then clad it if I feel it was needed..
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you can buy fridge panels
or 8obs way
Flat Both Sides White Insulated Panels:1100mm Wide,2200 Mm Long,80mm Thick, | eBay
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or 8obs way
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I thought they were reasonable at £250 so £150 is a result. With that Farm2000 and a few of these you could probably get a workshop to the point it's too warm to work. I was going to fit a thermostatic switch to the fan motors, I suppose I could just fit a thermostatic rad valve to the flow...
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Those fridge panels are 25 quid per metre. So not cheap. But I suppose its better than Decimating half the amazon rain forest doing it Bob's way..lolyou can buy fridge panels
Flat Both Sides White Insulated Panels:1100mm Wide,2200 Mm Long,80mm Thick, | eBay
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or 8obs way
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I thought they were reasonable at £250 so £150 is a result. With that Farm2000 and a few of these you could probably get a workshop to the point it's too warm to work. I was going to fit a thermostatic switch to the fan motors, I suppose I could just fit a thermostatic rad valve to the flow...www.mig-welding.co.uk
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its all down to cost and what your willing to pay to get done
as goes for the window lights id make a frame up to the size i was wanting and just do what i did
but i didnt seal the panels as they need to come back down to clean them every now and again
thats why ive shown you what i did 8ob roughly followed the same reference it does work and it throws alot of light around
once you start to insulate you will block alot of light but you can gain alot back add some led strip lights and it will be bright in there more than you think
its either metal or its wood or plastic but beaware heat will affect plastic
as goes for the window lights id make a frame up to the size i was wanting and just do what i did
but i didnt seal the panels as they need to come back down to clean them every now and again
thats why ive shown you what i did 8ob roughly followed the same reference it does work and it throws alot of light around
once you start to insulate you will block alot of light but you can gain alot back add some led strip lights and it will be bright in there more than you think
its either metal or its wood or plastic but beaware heat will affect plastic
I think cost wise it's going to have to be Kingspan or similar.
I can get 10 sheets of 50mm foil both sides for approx 260 quid.
Buying my preferred option of cold room cladding/panels is not financially viable currently.
My plan is to get the insulation up and then get plastic cladding if needed.
That is approx 200 quid per bay but as I can get 5 metre lengths of 150mm it should be reasonably quick to put up.
I will be phoning around again in the morning but I have left 4 messages today....no one seems to answer mobiles in this industry...lol
Ideally 75mm plastic coated cold room panels would be good. But cost is high and 100mm seems to be the thinnest and that's around 25 quid per square metre. As I need 20 square metres that's £500 now.
Or
£260 (50mm ) now and 400 quid plastic.
Could be purchased in 2 transactions.
You got that spot on. Lol
Certainly playing with cost v thickness.
I was set on getting 75mm at £26.50 plus vat.
Then someone threw a curve ball and said they have 12 sheets of 100mm 8 x 4.
I asked the price and they want 40 quid a sheet. (With scuffs and dinks in them although new)
So I checked this morning and the place that has the 75mm also has 100mm in stock that works out at 42 quid INC vat.
So unless the guy reduces his price I am not going to buy his for 40 when I can get brand new (no drinks etc).
BUT and this is my dilemma. How much better are the 100mm.
I know they will be stronger but I don't think 75mm will sag or snap over a 1.85metre span. Are they however much warmer.
How do I gauge the extra thermal values against cost. 420 quid v 318 if my maths is correct.
I was set on getting 75mm at £26.50 plus vat.
Then someone threw a curve ball and said they have 12 sheets of 100mm 8 x 4.
I asked the price and they want 40 quid a sheet. (With scuffs and dinks in them although new)
So I checked this morning and the place that has the 75mm also has 100mm in stock that works out at 42 quid INC vat.
So unless the guy reduces his price I am not going to buy his for 40 when I can get brand new (no drinks etc).
BUT and this is my dilemma. How much better are the 100mm.
I know they will be stronger but I don't think 75mm will sag or snap over a 1.85metre span. Are they however much warmer.
How do I gauge the extra thermal values against cost. 420 quid v 318 if my maths is correct.
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Is there a manufactures data sheet that gives the R value of the different thicknesses?
Assuming the same material for each it’s directly proportional to the thickness. 100mm is going to be 33% better than 75mm. Which is almost exactly reflected in the price you quoted.
But unless you insulate the roof members themselves you will get cold bridges and condensation. If you’re going to the trouble of removing the existing roof sheets, you might as well remove the rafters and replace with timber, put a lightweight tiled roof on (like plastic slates) and then stick some kingspan underneath the lot (assuming of course that whatever holds the existing roof up at the moment is man enough to hold up the replacement - might not be the case if it’s a uPVC structure).
