Land Rover Defender 110 Rebuild

[mylesdw]

Stainless bolts into steel is fine, in fact there are advantages. Galvanic corrosion only occurs in the presence of an electrolyte (read salty water) so as long as it is all well painted and sealed, again it should be fine.

 

[colnerov]

I was thinking bolognese sauce

Is that because of what's written on the tape?

 

[KimB]

Not a good mix of differential metals is it. Are there any gaskets between them?

There's gaskets between the hinges to the body. Just the stainless bolts will touch all other materials.

Stainless bolts into steel is fine, in fact there are advantages. Galvanic corrosion only occurs in the presence of an electrolyte (read salty water) so as long as it is all well painted and sealed, again it should be fine.

Well they're anodised. The hinges have gaskets between the body, it's just the bolts touching the hinges.

 

[mylesdw]

I guess a tiny smear of silicone sealant under the bolt head to keep the moisture out should do the trick.

 

[RichardM]

Is that because of what's written on the tape?

Oh yes

Just put some coppaslip on the bolts

 

[waldershelf]

A friend of mine bought a 90 a year older than that with the rubbish turbo diesel engine. He took the body off, repainted it and repaired the chassis then put it back together and ran it but the engine was dire so he has fitted a 300tdi from a Disco and it is now a really usable motor in every sense, power, reliability and fuel consumption improved.



If you can't get the pillar in with door on think of the pain you are going to have after making the door fit. We spent all afternoon jacking the door surround into shape with 3x2 and pushers to make a driver's door fit something like, still not perfect but safe enough to go round a corner without the door flying open.

You just have to be realistic, Land Rover never managed to get door shuts and panel gaps to line up in the factory, what chance have you. The best you can hope is to get it something like and hope it doesn't leak too much.

 

[KimB]

Hi everyone,

Did some work on Lou today. Pulled him outside. Started trying to fit b posts.

I decided right away that the NS one would probably be easier to fit than the OS one. Turns out both are quite badly damaged. I'm fuming. This guy has messed me around for so long. I kept telling him I wanted some good useable B posts that need no work. One of them is horrific. The other was bad but not as badly damaged as the OS one.
For starters. This is the NS one.

After a bit of work with a hammer and punch, I managed to straighten it up so it wild line up nicely on the car.

Now the OS one! This side is hard to see. But it's split on the inside and outside of the C section, the top of the post part is really badly pushed in, thus pulling the b post down and backward partly.

It's ever so hard to see in the pics. It really is so bad. I can't believe he'd sell me these as good useable parts. I'm going to ask on a LR forum, I'm tempted to take them back. To remove that post and re weld it on is not going to be straightforward. Especially with a car that's never originally a 4door.
I did however put a few more bits on properly. The body does look great with the b posts on. It allows a lot to go together.!

The OS b post is bolted in but i cannot for the life of me get it to line up.
I'll hopefully have a plan for next week and the door fixings ordered. Than maybe. Just maybe we can look at fitting the roof, doors etc etc ready to galvanise after next weekend maybe.

 

[KimB]

I've been looking at the pics of the pillars and really trying to figure out how they integrate with everything around them to no avail. Also thinking "what's the problem, those B pillars are sat there sticking up in the air fine.

I have just this second twigged...

Those are C posts/pillars

A is bulkhead, B is rear of front doors/front of rear doors, C is rear of rear doors - and so on.

Are they? I always thought the whole thing was b post. As in the front to back bit.

 

[Robotstar5]

Those are C posts/pillars

A is bulkhead, B is rear of front doors/front of rear doors, C is rear of rear doors - and so on.

They can't fit the rear of the rear doors, they're too long/tall

Terminology varies but I would call them B posts so KimB has the correct ones

 

[Robotstar5]

The rusty bent ones are not B pillars, the B pillars have been pointing skyward for a couple of pages...

I thought those were the posts KimB was on about my mistake

 

[pedrobedro]

The B pillar is what the front doors latch to. Are you converting a 2 door to a 4 door Kim ?

 

[colnerov]

Hi, Actually the front door hinges on the 'A' post and closes on the 'B' post, the rear door hinges on the 'C' post and closes on the 'D' post. So the post between the front and rear door is the B/C post and the one that's fu...bent is the 'D' post.

Can you drill out the spot welds and separate the 'D' post from the bottom rail, dress the bottom flanges and rail back to shape, fit it to the vehicle, fit the doors, then fit the 'D' post in, get the gaps and door fit right and weld it back together again? That way you will end up with doors that fit better than factory. Who'd have thought that was possible?

Colin

 

[KimB]

In all honesty though, the items in those pictures are not good, they are not immediately usable and they certainly require more than no work...

Not for £300. For about £100 more I can get brand new genuine ones. So I'll be doing that now. Not putting up with this crap. I'm going to send them back.

Can you drill out the spot welds and separate the 'D' post from the bottom rail, dress the bottom flanges and rail back to shape, fit it to the vehicle, fit the doors, then fit the 'D' post in, get the gaps and door fit right and weld it back together again? That way you will end up with doors that fit better than factory. Who'd have thought that was possible?

Colin

I could do that but I'm going to ask for a refund and order some brand new ones. I need to work out which ones to order but I'm not putting up with the time it's taken to receive this crap.

 

[pedrobedro]

Hi, Actually the front door hinges on the 'A' post and closes on the 'B' post, the rear door hinges on the 'C' post and closes on the 'D' post. So the post between the front and rear door is the B/C post and the one that's fu...bent is the 'D' post.

A front, B middle and C rear. Probably get a door fitted to a D pillar in a stretch limo setup otherwise it's the section that the boot lid hinges on in an estate or hatchback.

 

[KimB]

Just ordered some brand new B posts earlier it was only £100 more so a no brainer!

 

[Robotstar5]

I hope you're NOT keeping a record of how much you're spending

 

[awemawson]

Has the supplier of the bent ones accepted the return and will he refund you?

 

[KimB]

I hope you're NOT keeping a record of how much you're spending

I am sort of but some things I can't. I'd have a seizure if I realised truly how expensive it is.

Has the supplier of the bent ones accepted the return and will he refund you?

He has. I'm going to send them back to him. Then get my £300 back.

 

[cumbriasteve]

He has. I'm going to send them back to him. Then get my £300 back.

By recorded delivery I hope

 

[Mark E]

Any progress after the "minor" headache of parts not fitting? Keep at it, looking forward to the finished product!