No More Road Tax Reminder Letters (V11)

[Welderpaul]

That's not what the DVLA'S website says;

From today (2 August 2023), motorists can opt for digital vehicle tax reminders rather than having to wait for a paper reminder to drop through their letter box. The change comes as part of DVLA’s new Driver and vehicles account service, which launches on GOV.UK today.

DVLA launches new online account for motorists

DVLA are asking motorists to test a new service that allows them to view their driving licence and vehicle details in one place.

www.gov.uk

At no point does it say that they're not going to send letters anymore, although I suspect that's where we'll end up.

But for the time being if you want an e mail or text reminder you've got to register or you'll have to wait for the highly efficient postal service to deliver your reminder.

But don't let that get in the way of a reason for everyone to start banging the keyboard and set off another 50 page moan-fest for the forum

 

[Ubique]

And those that don’t have an email address? Obviously that policy pertains to all on this forum, but there are exceptions out there.

Then use a mobile number - you don't need to give them an email address to use the online service or the reminders - this looks like a solution where people are looking for problems. If Scottish islands can be provided with fibre or microwave / satellite internet connections, it's pretty much just the refusnik/luddites amongst the population that can't see the benefit to them in moving with the times.

 

[OJCar]

@Welderpaul could you please lock this thread.

I promise never, ever to start a thread trying to be helpful and warn people about a change that caught me out.

 

[colnerov]

But don't let that get in the way of a reason for everyone to start banging the keyboard and set off another 50 page moan-fest for the forum

@Welderpaul could you please lock this thread.

I promise never, ever to start a thread trying to be helpful and warn people about a change that caught me out.

I think he's speaking from the other side.

 

[Migmac]

@Welderpaul could you please lock this thread.

I promise never, ever to start a thread trying to be helpful and warn people about a change that caught me out.

Don’t do that OJ, it’s informative

 

[not done it yet]

Then use a mobile number - you don't need to give them an email address to use the online service or the reminders - this looks like a solution where people are looking for problems. If Scottish islands can be provided with fibre or microwave / satellite internet connections, it's pretty much just the refusnik/luddites amongst the population that can't see the benefit to them in moving with the times.

Yes, I have a mobile number - but it is not for use (and likely/possible sale - like email addresses) by lots of ‘contacts’ that I don’t want contacting me.

Seems, already, that this thread has been instigated by someone who hasn’t actually read the detail before jumping to conclusions? I am expecting there was a paper reminder in this case, but likely ignored. Anyway, there is a ‘grace period‘ (of perhaps a fortnight?) for re-taxing the vehicle - as long as that actually happens (and the taxation periods are continuous).

 

[Ubique]

Well all I can say is that over the years I've used .gov online services I've never had the email address or mobile number sold on - and I use unique addresses and numbers so if it happened, I'd know the exact source.

Other than that, enjoy the aroma of the post office queue....

 

[OJCar]

Yes, I have a mobile number - but it is not for use (and likely/possible sale - like email addresses) by lots of ‘contacts’ that I don’t want contacting me.

Seems, already, that this thread has been instigated by someone who hasn’t actually read the detail before jumping to conclusions? I am expecting there was a paper reminder in this case, but likely ignored. Anyway, there is a ‘grace period‘ (of perhaps a fortnight?) for re-taxing the vehicle - as long as that actually happens (and the taxation periods are continuous).

There was NO V11 received.
The "grace period" is a myth.

@Wozzaaah Please lock this thread.

 

[Ubique]

So if you didn't get the V11, did you get the 'last chance' letter?

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Easy to check status here https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

 

[not done it yet]

There was NO V11 received.
The "grace period" is a myth.

@Wozzaaah Please lock this thread.

You should be getting a letter soon - a demand for £80.

 

[pedrobedro]

I just tried to sign up and it got to the section where it wants a passport number and it doesn't give any option not to have a passport Knackered after that.

 

[Ubique]

You don't need a passport to pay car tax online https://vehicletax.service.gov.uk/

 

[Kram]

Online? it's no harder than typing your post above this one.
I've just bought another car, it took me less than a minute to tax it, no finding somewhere to park (or trudging through the rain), no standing in a queue waiting for someone to decide if they want first or second class postage to send a parcel to Nigeria - and fill in the customs declaration, no having to wipe your debit card on a sleeve because the card reader 'doesn't always work properly', no getting to the front of the queue to suddenly find the three staff are now just one as two of them go on their dinner break.....
Trust me, it's just. Easier.

It ******* well is not. I bought my car on Sunday and after numerous problems sorting out insurance I had to drive off from the shut dealerships locked gate carpark to come home and only after 30 mins did I remember the tax still to be done. Pulled over at services and attempted it. The first time it gave up when returning from the card payment 2sv page. The next few times it threw an error saying it couldnt be done online. I checked, waited and checked again that it still showed as untaxed... and hadn't recieved the extortionate £290 charge on my card notifications... Eventually I had to swap browser to one with clean history to get it to go through.

£290 for a relatively clean 2L petrol!! Yet a slightly newer and far dirtier diesel goes for £30
And how do they make this newer diesel appear slightly cleaner, you might ask? They have reduced the compression ratio to the same as the petrol version, 14:1.. also making the mpg far worse, but "its cleaner", whilst using more diesel for the same journey as the old one...

 

[Ubique]

It ******* well is not. I bought my car on Sunday and after numerous problems sorting out insurance I had to drive off from the shut dealerships locked gate carpark to come home and only after 30 mins did I remember the tax still to be done. Pulled over at services and attempted it. The first time it gave up when returning from the card payment 2sv page. The next few times it threw an error saying it couldnt be done online. I checked, waited and checked again that it still showed as untaxed... and hadn't recieved the extortionate £290 charge on my card notifications... Eventually I had to swap browser to one with clean history to get it to go through.

£290 for a relatively clean 2L petrol!! Yet a slightly newer and far dirtier diesel goes for £30
And how do they make this newer diesel appear slightly cleaner, you might ask? They have reduced the compression ratio to the same as the petrol version, 14:1.. also making the mpg far worse, but "its cleaner", whilst using more diesel for the same journey as the old one...

That's what used to be known as a PICNIC error....

 

[pedrobedro]

You don't need a passport to pay car tax online https://vehicletax.service.gov.uk/

You do to sign up to the service though which is the point of the thread.

 

[mike os]

Why do you need reminders? Take some responsibility for your lives and the stuff you need to do

 

[voipio]

But not all are sufficiently well organised to remember every last bill paying/renewal iota.

 

[gaz1]

i prefer an open payment system instead of digital by default

I kinda enjoy going down to the post office and paying for the road tax there

a, im keeping someone in a job
b, its someone to talk too
c, i get to shop around and see if theres other things of interest for my partner or my children

to be honest theres no need to supply dvla with more info than just an address if users want to give there email address thats fine for them

as goes for telephone number for texts i cant see the need for them to have it unless they intend to inform you of fines by contacting you over the phone otherwise its a collection of data to be shared with anyone that includes the police who then think they have a right to contact you when they see fit or when they think they have an excuse to contact you.

dont forget all this data can be shared with debt companies and dvla is one collection point they do use

 

[Shox Dr]

Ive often wondered why the Gov hasnt forced insurance compaines to collect it, just as VAT registered Businesses collect "end user tax" for the Gov.

No doubt if it were to happen, the insurance co's would charge a 'handling fee'