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Could be Im not sure. If they have a blue coating it probably is
The more help he can get the easier it is
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Super 6. Or aldi / tool stn own brand v murex. Esab. oerlikon etc sure
True enough but without gaining a certain skill level many won't find the difference in the better rods
Super 6. Or aldi / tool stn own brand v murex. Esab. oerlikon etc sure
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That level of skill is usually reached after half a dozen rods. You give a guy who has welded for less than five minutes a rod that strikes up clean and is tolerant of varying arc length and he'll notice the difference.
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From bargain basement to good quality rods sure but not really good to cool rods that takes time and decent technique
What level of skill? To tell the better rods apart? I have to disagree after half a dozen!
From bargain basement to good quality rods sure but not really good to cool rods that takes time and decent technique
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we use both bohler 6013 and phoenix blau on slip on flanges for gas pipes vertcial down on electrode negative. on flanges rolled or done downhand its fincord
all 6013 but brand specific on procedures thats the catch .me i like the bohlers fantastic finish
all 6013 but brand specific on procedures thats the catch .me i like the bohlers fantastic finish
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Quite correct specific procedures - many say you can't do this that and the other but this stuff can vary brand to brand within the same 6013, 7018 etc I do have some 7018 rated for v- down and so does another member and got shouted down about they can't be last year. They also perform on v- down in real life and further more allow negative or positive hook up not that I have found need or reason yet
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Yet marked 7018 with loyds approval, I dunno just going on what it states printed on box
Dont know either but they can quote Lloyds Approval if its only tested downhand........The inspector should pick it up though
Some companies choose to use different classifications if it suits their customers.
Filarc 27P was very commonly used vd but they class it an E8018-G
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So even when positions are indicated on the package Along with loyds approval - it could be approved in one position? In this case maybe just downhand as you suggest? And not in negative - just positive?
I have to say I can't think of why anyone might need negative approval and the wp should qualify those bits right?
I have used these v- down but just putting on non critical stuff and they performed well the puddle freezing quick enough to form a nice bead form - not the flattened out rubbish you normally have chase you down with 7018 / 6013 rods
Pre- Ce marking stock so I bought a whole bunch of them all non certified stuff of course anyway and I am good to keep them here
Yes the approvals dont always match what it says on the box.........TIG wires are even more strange as often the tests are done MIG welding.......imagine trying to TIG weld a 20mm thick plate...it would take days
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Your looking at the metallurgy right? Although I have never fed 1.6 mm solid through a mig and never used argon shielding on ms
I do totally get the madness having seen many a photocopy wp from a completely different job and the like
Well no not really but as they are often the same composition (ally and SS especially) they get listed together so it looks like they are both approved. In truth there are very few "approved" TIG wires
This is the Lloyds list of approved consumables
https://www.cdlive.lr.org/informati...vedWeldingConsumables/Welding_Consumables.pdf
There arent many TIG wires
This is what you really should use to verify if a consumable is actually approved and approved in the position and with the gas etc that you intend to use. There are similar lists for DNV etc etc. Actually Ive known this list to be wrong.......out of date.....so even this isnt infallable
https://www.cdlive.lr.org/informati...vedWeldingConsumables/Welding_Consumables.pdf
There arent many TIG wires
This is what you really should use to verify if a consumable is actually approved and approved in the position and with the gas etc that you intend to use. There are similar lists for DNV etc etc. Actually Ive known this list to be wrong.......out of date.....so even this isnt infallable
