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EBC , bit more spendy but a choice of grade as well .buy british
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Craig-SM
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Stopped using EBC when the pad material delaminated from the metal backing on the first the car and then the motorbike rear causing a lock up. I'll never use them again.
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Jurid, who are OEM manufacturers are often confused with Pagid - that said, there are suppliers who I would not buy anything from, ECP, Autodoc and SCL come to mind, their buyers seem to not care if they are second line parts or outright fakes.
Whatever it is, if it matters, buy genuine.
I would say that brakes, tyres and steering are the prime items in the 'if it matters' list.
Whatever it is, if it matters, buy genuine.
I would say that brakes, tyres and steering are the prime items in the 'if it matters' list.
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+1 for the above (ish).
I buy nothing from Autodoc - everytime I or one of my customers have - the stuff has just been wrong.
SCL - I had to google who they were.
ECP - yes I have bought from them - and still do - but not often - they are "the supplier of last resort" if I am to honest!
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EBC Greenstuff are good
Pagid are OK as a budget pad. Same thing with Ridex (Autodoc's own brand). Apec are good and have been since the 80's, Brembo, Bosch are OK. Aftermarket like EBC are very good but hard to get in Spain.
I stay away from budget stuff though. Mostly I try and find out who supplies the main dealer and buy those from an indy. For example, JLR don't make brakes, they buy them in, to their spec, from Brembo.
I do have some sympathy with the aftermarket though. Anything VW could have any one of a number of systems fitted and the only way to know for sure is by checking the options label on the car. My 2014 Skoda Superb had 4 options when you check Eurocarparts, all very marginally different sizes or shapes. My Audi 2004 A4 has 3 options depending on if it is manual, auto or quattro drive. I can't fathom why cos they are all much of a muchness. But that could explain why the OP had pads which wouldn't quite fit, probably the wrong ones.
So you have to decode a label like this. PITA. Gives you every option on the car as it was built, in this case 1LB being the front brakes option.
I stay away from budget stuff though. Mostly I try and find out who supplies the main dealer and buy those from an indy. For example, JLR don't make brakes, they buy them in, to their spec, from Brembo.
I do have some sympathy with the aftermarket though. Anything VW could have any one of a number of systems fitted and the only way to know for sure is by checking the options label on the car. My 2014 Skoda Superb had 4 options when you check Eurocarparts, all very marginally different sizes or shapes. My Audi 2004 A4 has 3 options depending on if it is manual, auto or quattro drive. I can't fathom why cos they are all much of a muchness. But that could explain why the OP had pads which wouldn't quite fit, probably the wrong ones.
So you have to decode a label like this. PITA. Gives you every option on the car as it was built, in this case 1LB being the front brakes option.
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SCL are probably regional to be honest - although there's probably similar sellers of useless tat all over the UK.
I think the problem is that the people that sell the stuff know nothing about what it does, what's good or bad about it and why it makes a difference, so they'll still sell you the 'value range' stuff beloved by the (usually Eastern European) 'kerbside mechanics' because it's a fast mover so must be good, right? - when all you want is optimum quality parts that will perform to specification for a suitable length of time, at a price that is acceptable - and crucially, made by the manufacturer the packaging claims it to be.
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The quality of car parts are being driven down by the people that are buying them.
Everybody has wanted cheap of late. ( bar a few people - the minority)
So all they sell is cheap.
So all the stock is cheap.
And in the end - all they make is cheap.
I fit my own stuff so I want best value. I try to search out true oem parts at the best prices but it's getting harder as the oem names are bought and their products become tat. My recent purchase from autodoc has me questioning their stuff as Ubique mentions above. I'd not used them before apart from one purchase which was as it should have been.
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I would agree with this.
Have been doing my own repairs and services for quite a while. This at least gives me the chance to have a look at what I’ve bought before it’s fitted and have a view on “do I trust this”. Even if it turns out to be wrong after it’s on, I can change it.
It’s a different story for people that use a garage and don’t have that option without an argument over having to pay to have it corrected.
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I was rebuilding a merc 307 at the time , got used to the parts people , asked the delivery driver why was he doing a van to van in xxx layby , oh we get a load of parts from another firm , all marked up with logo etc but a lot cheaper ...and that was from the horses mouth so to speak.
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there was a link on here some time back, it showed some where in india guys working in the dirt on their yard making up brake pads with who knows what material , being put on cleaned up used metal back plates then being put in a box with a nice hologrraphic named brand label stuck on..
Friends don't let friends buy EBC.
As @Craig-SM said, the quality is just too variable. Pad delamination was common with yellowstuff pads too and the performance was variable too.
It's not road oriented, but I've never been disappointed with Carbotech pads (though a LOT more spendy)
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I had a set of ebc greens wear out during a stage rally. Had followed their break in instructions and they were down to the metal in less than 80miles.
Won't use them again and only stick to ferodo 2500 or mintex 1144 pads for my sprinting. Both are a massive improvement over ebc
Won't use them again and only stick to ferodo 2500 or mintex 1144 pads for my sprinting. Both are a massive improvement over ebc
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Wow , seems EBC has gone to the dogs
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I thought it was just a phase they'd been through but searching Google it seems to be still occurring and their customer services aren't that concerned with just sending out replacement pads.
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I am 58 yrs old and have run my own car repair garage in one form or the other since I been 18 (that is 40 yrs buying parts).
No I am not buying main dealer brake parts for my own fleet of cars.
But I am struggling to buy good OE spec named braking parts to fit to my cars and my better customers cars/vans who want good stuff at aftermarket prices.
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I personally got a fleet of 2012/2013/2015 plate cars - they all over ten years old. I don't want to fit - brake pad that squeal - to my cars - or to my little fleet of loaner/courtesy cars I lend out - it just looks bad...
In tried EBC stuff in my first integrale and when they fell apart I never bothered again - that would be over 20 yrs ago.
Used Mintex as a mate worked for them and they were okay - and as BBA (as it was then) used some of our machines
But for the last 20 years, Ferodo have been excellent. Less sure about Brembo disks as I they did not not like all year round use. Current set seem okay though.
Unless you were a local, 20 plus years ago, you wouldnt have known there was a Mintex pad making factory in Birstall, West Yorkshire. We used to do a lot of their machinery other than the actual forming presses - and we returned them on occasion. If I recall correctly, entire plant was dismantled and shipped off to Spain - we used to get occasional calls for assistance.
I assume they are still off the M62 at Cleckheaton. As a callow design engineer, I turned up there with an experienced fitter to don some work . . . Fitter brought a drill to use . . . Fliippin' hammer drill! For drilling holes in metal!
Never taken anyone's word that they have everything needed since!
Used Mintex as a mate worked for them and they were okay - and as BBA (as it was then) used some of our machines
But for the last 20 years, Ferodo have been excellent. Less sure about Brembo disks as I they did not not like all year round use. Current set seem okay though.
Unless you were a local, 20 plus years ago, you wouldnt have known there was a Mintex pad making factory in Birstall, West Yorkshire. We used to do a lot of their machinery other than the actual forming presses - and we returned them on occasion. If I recall correctly, entire plant was dismantled and shipped off to Spain - we used to get occasional calls for assistance.
I assume they are still off the M62 at Cleckheaton. As a callow design engineer, I turned up there with an experienced fitter to don some work . . . Fitter brought a drill to use . . . Fliippin' hammer drill! For drilling holes in metal!
Never taken anyone's word that they have everything needed since!
