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Have you had bad experiences with push fit then? I've used them a lot and haven't had any issues at all (and we have very high water pressure: about 120 psi from memory; having said that, the high pressure might help maintain the push fit maybe?). I've never had a push fit fitting leak, which certainly can't be said of compression fittings. When I absolutely have to use compression fittings and have the option of how to do it, I fit them onto a short length of copper pipe (so I can tighten them away from any awkward walls or restricted areas) and then solder the copper pipe to the rest of the system.
For me the order of preference is:
1. Push fit (equal first depending on where it's going)
1. Solder (equal first depending on where it's going)
3. Solder ring (no leak issues with these, I just prefer assembling stuff one joint at a time)
4. Pay someone else to do it
7. Compression
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i dont know why i dont like them as i dont use them ive got no real experance but its i could be i dont like change and these are quite new to the market and unless you have 20 years in use in a house no body realy knows how good they are in the long term
i did have a push fiting fail the other week on a filter on our fridge the other week(these are replaced every time you change the filter so these is not reason for it to fail in a few months) lucky the otherhalf was home so sorted it pritty quick but was a bit of a mess after up to 20 mins of running water in the house i thnk she has caught is early but hate to think what would of happened if we had been out all day or even worse on holiday
a mate had them under a sink for the hot and cold it was a mess after a fitting for washing mechine dishwasher the taps outlet for fridge i was hung all in under the sink and i said you need to change that every time you put stuff in there it knocks the pipe work and he had at least a few leaks under there and one that was quite hard to fix so much so that he ended up replacing the lot and as he wanted a quick job replaced the lot with all new push fitting
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i dont know why i dont like them as i dont use them ive got no real experance but its i could be i dont like change and these are quite new to the market and unless you have 20 years in use in a house no body realy knows how good they are in the long term
i did have a push fiting fail the other week on a filter on our fridge the other week(these are replaced every time you change the filter so these is not reason for it to fail in a few months) lucky the otherhalf was home so sorted it pritty quick but was a bit of a mess after up to 20 mins of running water in the house i thnk she has caught is early but hate to think what would of happened if we had been out all day or even worse on holiday
a mate had them under a sink for the hot and cold it was a mess after a fitting for washing mechine dishwasher the taps outlet for fridge i was hung all in under the sink and i said you need to change that every time you put stuff in there it knocks the pipe work and he had at least a few leaks under there and one that was quite hard to fix so much so that he ended up replacing the lot and as he wanted a quick job replaced the lot with all new push fitting
The longest standing push-fit fittings in my house have been there about 10 years so far with no issues. The main plumbing problem I have is cistern inlet valves: I think I'm on my third or even fourth one in 15 years. Most of the plumbing fittings like that I've bought are rated to about 70 or 80 psi, so I'm sure it doesn't help having 120+ psi water pressure. I fitted a pressure-reducing valve on the feed to the washing machine, but I really quite like having high pressure for the shower (and the hose outside which is like a slightly weedy pressure washer), so have resisted putting one anywhere else.
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depending on what shower is fitted most have a max pressure requirement
if he had problems with it beeing under sink being hit by putting bottles in just vibration could cause problems but i hope not
my house is 60 years old and untill i moved in most i expect was original and not leaking and was soldered copper most has now been replaced as ive fitted kitchen bathroom changed the down stairs toilet etc there must only be 20 percent of the orignal left at most but if it lasted 60 years and ive replaced with all copper and solder joints id expect the pipe work will out last me
im not that sure i could say the same for plastic fitting would do the same
if he had problems with it beeing under sink being hit by putting bottles in just vibration could cause problems but i hope not
my house is 60 years old and untill i moved in most i expect was original and not leaking and was soldered copper most has now been replaced as ive fitted kitchen bathroom changed the down stairs toilet etc there must only be 20 percent of the orignal left at most but if it lasted 60 years and ive replaced with all copper and solder joints id expect the pipe work will out last me
im not that sure i could say the same for plastic fitting would do the same
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dont know if right but turn untill stiff then a nip not had one leak yet but allways add ptfe tape when i use commpression fittings
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^^^ not unless you want it to leak and replace 
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^^^ you learn something new every day i never even looked
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thats after the the gas safe plumber has one that leaks and winds it up even further hoping for the best
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For pipework that is going to be seen ,you can't beat end feed ...for quickness yorkshire and for places you don't want to mess about with a blow lamp 'cos there is a fire risk use compression ...
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Yorkshire copper solder fittings every time and pipe not plastic crap . i only use compression fittings where necessary
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Yes Yorkshire or end feed are my preferred type, but sometimes you need to make things so that they can be dismantled for maintnance or constructed in elements that then get put together round obstructions.
I've just built a humongous water chiller for my foundry using 54 mm and 28 mm copper pipe that couldn't physically be put together and soldered in-situ so I have compression fittings at strategic places allowing me to solder the rest 'off the job'
The water chiller is on the left in this picture, the other is the 100 KVA induction furnace driver:
I've just built a humongous water chiller for my foundry using 54 mm and 28 mm copper pipe that couldn't physically be put together and soldered in-situ so I have compression fittings at strategic places allowing me to solder the rest 'off the job'
The water chiller is on the left in this picture, the other is the 100 KVA induction furnace driver:
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Don't learn something everyday? You haven't been listening.
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When at my daughters fitting a kitchen [in perth w a] she had a friend who was a plumber so when he came to do the pipework I was helping him & I said where's your propane bottle? he said I've got long hoses, too much trouble getting the BOTTLES out, bottles? aye oxy acetylene, we don't have soldered fittings here they're all silver soldered. [or compression]
