Police entering a rented property.

[willie.macleod]

I sometimes watch autmatrix tracker videos on YouTube, they show interesting cases where they track stolen vehicles and plant using gps/radio signals. They deal with police forces all over when they need access to lockups, get into trucks or the like. Sounds very similar to what the OP was describing, can't recall much talk of them getting warrants each time, some of the forces seem very switched on and willing to assist recovery quickly.

 

[Ubique]

I am led to believe all these years later - even with the pits closed - there are aging miners who think they are still on strike!

Echoes of the Japs refusing to acknowledge the inevitable capitulation, hiding away, ready for the 'fight', when it comes.

 

[My Old Landy]

I sometimes watch autmatrix tracker videos on YouTube, they show interesting cases where they track stolen vehicles and plant using gps/radio signals. They deal with police forces all over when they need access to lockups, get into trucks or the like. Sounds very similar to what the OP was describing, can't recall much talk of them getting warrants each time, some of the forces seem very switched on and willing to assist recovery quickly.

This is my take on it. They follow a tracker and have the right to enter as they believe a crime has been committed.

 

[premmington]

Echoes of the Japs refusing to acknowledge the inevitable capitulation, hiding away, ready for the 'fight', when it comes.

I had some sympathy for the miners - loss of a way fo life - loss of income - and it left economic wastelands in parts of the UK.

But you can't hold the country to ransome trying to defend it.

There was two sides to this debate - (like there always is)

 

[ukracer]

Flip that round and they were thugs in pit helmets obeying orders from an evil dictator. And their actions were responded to in kind

Battle of Orgreave: Miners' strike violence 'orchestrated by No 10'

The Welsh government's top lawyer says Downing Street wanted the miners to get "a good beating".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ajlelectronics]

In that case you were not there....

I was, I saw, I understood that the tail had wagged the dog for too long.

 

[ukracer]

I had some sympathy for the miners - loss of a way fo life - loss of income - and it left economic wastelands in parts of the UK.

But you can't hold the country to ransome trying to defend it.

There was two sides to this debate - (like there always is)

But sadly you can rip it off during a pandemic and get away with it. Post office debarcle is another . I could go on but Its against the rules and my blood pressure will be going through the roof.

 

[Ubique]

Battle of Orgreave: Miners' strike violence 'orchestrated by No 10'

The Welsh government's top lawyer says Downing Street wanted the miners to get "a good beating".

www.bbc.co.uk

The Welsh Government's opinion reported on the BBC as a credible source? As Kevin Bridges would say - Enjoy your night, mate.

 

[ukracer]

I was, I saw, I understood that the tail had wagged the dog for too long.

We probably dont disagree too much but dealing with it the way they did was horrific. GREED is the root of all evil not just money.

 

[ajlelectronics]

blood pressure will be going through the roof.

Not like you! You are one of the most reasonable people who can discuss all sorts with anyone. Still, I have felt the same for the last three weeks and am trying now to avoid "triggers". Not easy when you have the likes of EDF etc playing jobsworth!

 

[ajlelectronics]

We probably dont disagree too much but dealing with it the way they did was horrific. GREED is the root of all evil not just money.

I agree with that but sadly Scargill and the other commies thought that they could dictate terms to the government and resorted to violence when told that enough was enough.

 

[Ubique]

We probably dont disagree too much but dealing with it the way they did was horrific. GREED is the root of all evil not just money.

The miners, well their union leaders were flogging a dead horse - in King Canute style, refusing to accept the inevitable, if they had 'won', would we still be burning coal to charge electric cars? It's just a shame the train drivers wings were not clipped as well as they could have been.

 

[premmington]

I agree with that but sadly Scargill and the other commies thought that they could dictate terms to the government and resorted to violence when told that enough was enough.

Some socialist! Arthur Scargill may sue NUM for more perks after claiming he has been cheated out of free fuel

Arthur Scargill is threatening legal action against the NUM for withdrawal of payments understood to be worth around £5,000 a year.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Some socialist - just looks like another "taker" to me....

 

[ukracer]

I agree with that but sadly Scargill and the other commies thought that they could dictate terms to the government and resorted to violence when told that enough was enough.

I am more aware than most people think. Simply put I was a union official at the time working in the fire service and knew a lot of Bobbies who talked a lot. I was at Wortleyhall at the time. Lets just say a lot of the personnel there were not bobbies.

As for remote picketing tthere is a debate to be had. And has been over the years. There is middle ground but no one seems to be prepared to find it. Any discussion around stuff like this is inevitably political so I will bow out now .

 

[ajlelectronics]

As for remote picketing tthere is a debate to be had. And has been over the years. There is middle ground but no one seems to be prepared to find it. Any discussion around stuff like this is inevitably political so I will bow out now .

I suppose it comes down to who runs things, the government or the unions?

 

[ukracer]

I suppose it comes down to who runs things, the government or the unions?

I was bowing out....BUT no government ever has said you all deserve a rise. But a number have created inflation and interest rate rises.

 

[Ubique]

I am more aware than most people think. Simply put I was a union official at the time working in the fire service and knew a lot of Bobbies who talked a lot. I was at Wortleyhall at the time. Lets just say a lot of the personnel there were not bobbies.

They were auxiliary personnel from various government controlled resources, not the 'privateers' you allude to. I worked with many of them in the past - I suggest some of the stories you heard were bravado and 'bigging up' in front of their mates and acquaintances.

 

[ajlelectronics]

I was bowing out....BUT no government ever has said you all deserve a rise. But a number have created inflation and interest rate rises.

On that note I will bow out.

 

[ukracer]

They were auxiliary personnel from various government controlled resources, not the 'privateers' you allude to. I worked with many of them in the past - I suggest some of the stories you heard were bravado and 'bigging up' in front of their mates and acquaintances.

Who said anything about privateers?

They were not stories with bigging it up.

There are such things as D Notices ......

Anyway. we have pushed the rules too far today. It's clear we will never agree on this hence why the rule exists to prevent perpetual threads .......I am off to cook my curry.
Have a good night.

 

[Ubique]

'Enjoy your night, mate'