Practise practise practise

[IrishDave]

After getting the hang of it I've found it has become quite addictive hahaha

 

[Richard.]

You better get onto the colleges and training institutions and tell them theyre doing it wrong

Ok mate so multiple cap runs is "wrong" as you put it.
I didn't say either was wrong I said a sounder joint is achieved by controlling heat input. I suppose that's wrong too??

 

[wheresmejumper]

He ' spoilt the piece by weaving.....
i claim he didnt.
ill agree to disagree

 

[Kent]

You know just put one non weaved run in on each practice plste No crowning no undercut no Slag traps that the goal
Dry run it first till you get the best feel. Pull it down the last bit then straight up over that arc strike nice n square on
Idealy you want to look down on the run from bottom to top ( or at least I like to when I can) then you can actually see what's happening in process
There ain't no wp on practice and it don't matter if the fillet ain't to size either

 

[Sarto]

In your experience, how much is too much for a weave?
In terms of electrode diameters.
Until now I read that 2 or 3 x diameter is wide enough, after is better to split in multipass.

Thanks,
SARTo

 

[Richard.]

There is so many peoples take on that question Sarto but my take is 1x the rod diameter either side roughly. That's my take on it and respectfully understand others have different ideas to the maximum weave size.

 

[Sarto]

1x rod either side could be my 3x diameter from side to side.
Now, waiting for the others!

 

[wheresmejumper]

There is a general rule of 3x rod diameter for a weave.its not written in stone,but a trade off between strength and practicality.it is a lot easier to produce a sound weld,in the vertical position 5g with a weave,or a split weave than it is with stringers.undercut at the edges,excessive crowning in the centre.
45 degree or 6g stringers are easier
The strictest of wps will normally specify max rod manipulation/ weave,or/and the number of passes or stringers to complete.
in the uk,and a lot of europe for non ultra critical work,weaves are common.in the US,Canada ,it is more common for the same level of work to specify stringers

 

[Kent]

As regards this thread the hotter things get the harder it is to complete a tidy bead
Heat rises up and the longer you weld for the hotter it gets. When not used to it and lacking a bit ofconfidence / faith you go slower making things harder than it need be

This is why I say one tidy bead. If your on a job you do as requested on wp or you do the minimum and get paid n bug off to the next

 

[wheresmejumper]

There is a teeny tiny difference between weaving a cap and doing the bare bones minimum required and buggin off to the next job

 

[Richard.]

you do the minimum and get paid n bug off to the next

I assume that's a joke as that won't get him very far in a welding career.

 

[NickyEng]

If your on a job you do as requested on wp or you do the minimum and get paid n bug off to the next

Gonna get sacked pretty quickly if you have that mentality surely?

 

[IrishDave]

Is it true that if you get the hang of mma that you shouldn't have a problem with tig?

 

[Member 66061]

Is it true that if you get the hang of mma that you shouldn't have a problem with tig?

I doubt it

 

[NickyEng]

Is it true that if you get the hang of mma that you shouldn't have a problem with tig?

Nah not really, a totally different process. However a welder will always pick up another process quicker than a new starter as only a welder knows how to watch and interpret the puddle correctly.

 

[Kent]

Is it true that if you get the hang of mma that you shouldn't have a problem with tig?

Nah. But tig ain't rocket science

 

[Kent]

I assume that's a joke as that won't get him very far in a welding career.

Only half. There is much truth.in jest, trust me when I say the customers don't want to pay for extra time unless it's required
I only got ever one major rollicking as PAYE employee and it was for doing too good a job. OK I had more than one but non of the others were about my work lol

 

[wheresmejumper]

Every process just takes time to get the hang of.some lucky gits grab the torch and just weld almost instantly.im not one of them

 

[Richard.]

Every process just takes time to get the hang of.some lucky gits grab the torch and just weld almost instantly.im not one of them

Me neither. Took a lot of years and a lot of failed attempts

 

[Richard.]

Only half. There is much truth.in jest, trust me when I say the customers don't want to pay for extra time unless it's required
I only got ever one major rollicking as PAYE employee and it was for doing too good a job. OK I had more than one but non of the others were about my work lol

I think it's industry dependent in that therory. Yes if your sticking things together and farting about looking for perfect weld dimensions and profiles but you won't get a rollicking by welding up a perfect pipe joint without defect.