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Popped this cover off and a combination of oil and water came out. Not good.
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Over at the PTO shaft there was yes, more water.
This piece is keyed on and the key has to be removed in order to slide the shaft through.
You can then remove the front drive by knocking the shaft through. Oil everywhere. I drained the main gearbox and got a quick shower of filthy water over my hand, pulled free before the deluge of oil. It’s got far too much oil in it, like 8l, the manual says 8p so perhaps there was confusion with the pourers. If you use this much oil it can splash through the bearings either side and go into the brake bands, which would make them less than effective.
This piece is keyed on and the key has to be removed in order to slide the shaft through.
You can then remove the front drive by knocking the shaft through. Oil everywhere. I drained the main gearbox and got a quick shower of filthy water over my hand, pulled free before the deluge of oil. It’s got far too much oil in it, like 8l, the manual says 8p so perhaps there was confusion with the pourers. If you use this much oil it can splash through the bearings either side and go into the brake bands, which would make them less than effective.
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It wasn’t immediately obvious how to open this gearbox however the diagram shows no interference and the manual says to pound on the threaded ends to release the box. Ok!
Open it did, and it’s surprisingly clean in there. I’ll clean it more when I rebuild it though.
Open it did, and it’s surprisingly clean in there. I’ll clean it more when I rebuild it though.
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Then onto general cleaning, @Robotstar5 gave me the advice that boot polish works wonders on mag lids, it’s not looking too awful in there and the windings look in good shape. The gearbox had gasket paper and rtv silicone which had delaminated in the rain. I dislike rtv apart from around sump pans so I’ll use (probably a whole tube) of Hylomar on the new one. Plus, cleaning with petrol and soapy water in the engine bay, it’s now sparkling and clean!
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I don’t want to turn this into some sort of massive restoration project however this just looked scrappy and I thought I’d reinstate the red oxide, and I have a bit of blue I can run around the edge once it’s all back together.
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New gasket all cut, I managed to salvage the old one to use as a template as the former owner used RTV and it didn’t bond, so the sheet peeled away without too much hassle.
Dieselman 63
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Another gasket being copied. Seals the front drive lid.
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Another cooked bearing courtesy of rainwater and poor storage. Real nuisance as these imperial bearings are super expensive over here.
not done it yet
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Re the gaskets - I always use the original cover/housing to make gaskets, if at all possible. I don’t like copies of copies of copies….
Harps back to the game of ‘chinese whispers’ of long ago (before PC came along).
While here, ‘pounding’ is off my radar these days. Always press if possible. If not, only the use of a soft mallet head or a yellow metal drift gets used. Seen too many ruined shafts from hammering.
Harps back to the game of ‘chinese whispers’ of long ago (before PC came along).
While here, ‘pounding’ is off my radar these days. Always press if possible. If not, only the use of a soft mallet head or a yellow metal drift gets used. Seen too many ruined shafts from hammering.
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Yellow metal can still damage threads I’ve found, I prefer aluminium for drifts.
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Not to judge a book by its cover, but this engine was supposedly rebuilt. My concerns were allayed as I opened it up to find this!
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I've seen that view of a barrel a few times 
not done it yet
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Not sure your concerns were allayed - more like confirmed, especially if two head bolts were missing.
Looks like a home-made head gasket from steam gasket material? Likely contains asbestos.
Looks like a home-made head gasket from steam gasket material? Likely contains asbestos.
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Looking at the witness marks it looks like he's removed bolts 6&7 before the pic?
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Quite correct.
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Probably. I’ll slap some copper slip on it and bang it back together. It’s supposed to have an annealed solid copper head gasket, I may buy some sheet and re-make this.
What’s yours off? Have you joined the crawler club?
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This gives 660cc, I suppose that makes it a kei tractorA Villiers Mk.10 so only a 100cc "baby" engine
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This gives 660cc, I suppose that makes it a kei tractor
I think the biggest engine I have is 470cc, the Petter A1
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This also exists in the workshop, it’s a B&S mini genset, I think it’s WW2 or around then. Haven’t managed to fire it yet.
