Recomended Rods,

[snowcat]

Well Me bits (Finlay) arrived tday after a week of, "emm err there on the van, Emmm we not sure where they are, etc etc" So Iv started Crashing on with the job,

Iv posted this up mostly to show how things really shouldn't be done, the previous job was shoddy to say the least, A Large so called specialist (I will mention no names) charged a pricey sum of £700 for this prize work, I think much of it again boils down to bad training, On the shop floor, and probably lack of skill level to be able to tackle the job as it should,

OK first batch of pictures shows the state of the bucket, The Chalk arrows were Cracks we picked out, once cut I realized they simply pieced bits of wear edge between the holders, It doesn't even looked as if they were V prepped, simply MIG In, Job done.....If anyone knows what the Inox is doing round the edge of the adapters id be glad to know....... One of the Cut lumps will be returned with the bucket so the Management of the company can see....

The last picture Is the whole lump removed with the side "banana" bars buttered and 350 Hard faced,











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[snowcat]

This is the adapters being welded In, They have a Hell of a J prep on them nearly a 1" fill on both sides, which just shows the force on em, I'm running 7018S, Each Fill takes 8-10 passes, an hour + to weld In....

 

[Welderpaul]

Well Me bits arrived tday after a week of, "emm err there on the van, Emmm we not sure where they are, etc etc"

mmmm. Know what you mean Matt. Keep you posted mate. No pun intended.
What size rodneys are you using? 4mm? Esab...Nice.

 

[snowcat]

mmmm. Know what you mean Matt. Keep you posted mate. No pun intended.
What size rodneys are you using? 4mm? Esab...Nice.

And the idiots wonder why, Royal Mail such a disaster, They've been in the post over a week now...... I'm guessing you,ve got some agency numpty on at the mo, My house turns into the local sorting office every other week, and of course its 8KGs, so Its a bit like hard work

Mmmmmm 4mm ESABs, My supplier's changed from bohler's, welds very similar tho...

 

[Welderpaul]

And the idiots wonder why, Royal Mail such a disaster, They've been in the post over a week now...... I'm guessing you,ve got some agency numpty on at the mo, My house turns into the local sorting office every other week, and of course its 8KGs, so Its a bit like hard work

Mmmmmm 4mm ESABs, My supplier's changed from bohler's, welds very similar tho...

Went to the sorting(!) office yesterday - err, driver might still have them in his van - can't get hold of driver - we'll ring you - no call - we took your number down wrong. Have you tried the other units to see if he's left them there ..... Gonna give them some pain again tomoro.

Did you buy the wear bar or make it - what grade is it?

 

[Woody.v8]

Did you buy the wear bar or make it - what grade is it?

Possibly cutting edge??

 

[snowcat]

Went to the sorting(!) office yesterday - err, driver might still have them in his van - can't get hold of driver - we'll ring you - no call - we took your number down wrong. Have you tried the other units to see if he's left them there ..... Gonna give them some pain again tomoro.

Did you buy the wear bar or make it - what grade is it?

Burn the F***ers, jeuss Iv had a gut fall of pig ignorant lazy w*****'s of delivery drivers at the moment, They are all with no exception ars****s, There excuse with me is they cant find it, wasn't aware id drooped off the planet/moved to outback Australia, Surely the basics of "having a Map" exist even to the apes that deliver parcels........Then they moan how hard there job is when you Finlay get your stuff a week late and broken, Well iv got an idea, yeh dont like job, well do something else.......

And breath....

The bars Hardox 600, bought in from the plant supply's, (specially drawn for use on buckets) First one wrong size second one lost, third one chucked In my drive at 6.00am this morning, think my above relay of words got the message through...

The procedure of welding that toe in bought Much excitement on UKW, but the upshot is, preheat and lo hi's........

 

[snowcat]

In case anyones, interested in large scale bucket welding procedures, other than me and Mr Drains heres the thread on UKW.....http://www.ukwelder.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6472&st=0

 

[snowcat]

Finished at last, masses of stringers to weld in this lot, About 3 packs of rods in total, worst job keeping the preheat in a 2 1/2" by 10 " bar...... But got there in the end..











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[snowcat]

 

[Wozzaaah]

I'll bet you'll be glad to see the back of that job Snowy . Good work mate, a very interesting and informative thread.

 

[dutchman]

Nice job there Snowy!

Got any close-ups of one of the welded "teeth"?

Would be interesting

 

[snowcat]

Cheers Wozz/Dutchman

God yesss, It was a bit too much of a full on welding job for my likeing, 3 days of running up stringers by packing up time yesterday I really had the ache....

It was a learning curve to me never realised how much procidure, there is In a job like that (and so It appears many others didnt), the lads from UKW for all there sins came up trumps.....

One thing I did forget to mention, Is I taked initialy In half a dozzen places, decent 1" tacks, When I preheated there was an almighty bang and the edge fell clean off.... It absoulty shows the importance of that heat, and why cracks appear if not...

The Construction Boys have there own network of jungle drums, work for one, work for em all....So I have a fealing that bucket wont be the last

 

[Drains]

Ah..

Nice job btw Snowy. Arn't you glad you didn't listen to TechnicAl (now THAT's a first!)

So, how did you deal with the preheat problem? Did you then preheat BEFORE tacking up?

 

[snowcat]

Dutchman one of an initial root run, A job to see the depth of the J prep but around 1/2" (13mm) in your money....

And one of a completed holder, Didn't post it up because I was annoyed I hadn't noticed the bit of slag, on the last run, not an inclusion but makes the photo look messy......

On 7018s DC, I never get perfect lift from a stringer weld, I do with a weave but was told to keep weaves to a minumun.....6013s A/C No problems....Mind you I think I was top end of the recommended amps for pen so that wouldn't help......

 

[Welderpaul]

Good as new that bucket mate.

 

[snowcat]

Ah..

Nice job btw Snowy. Arn't you glad you didn't listen to TechnicAl (now THAT's a first!)?

Yehh I guess T/As allowed to get some'in wrong once in a while,

So, how did you deal with the preheat problem? Did you then preheat BEFORE tacking up?

Well by this stage i had a 200C lump of plate on the floor, bearing in mind It weighs properly 1/4 ton with those adapters on I was none too pleased with having to fit up again especially now everything was ****** hot....

Basically yes hauled It back up and retaked with It hot, Even with that tho, It made some alarming bangs, with the Initial Root run, and WTF are you supposed to lean/stand on when everything round you is roasting Hot??? Boot are burnt,leads, elbows, nees.....

 

[snowcat]

Good as new that bucket mate.

Cheers paul, Dare I ask???

 

[Welderpaul]

Cheers paul, Dare I ask???

Kin no sign Matt - I had a message on me mobile this morning from post office saying they hadnt found it. Not the most helpful of messages i have ever had.

I am back to the sorting office in the morning; apparently the other posty is back who may have it cos he had the other blokes van while his was been serviced, where the box might have been left.:full
What a joke they are - Normally a good service, but obviously not on this occasion.
Will let you know mate

 

[snowcat]

Gits, Il have a shout my end Monday, It might spur them into action...